Fuck you, Carsten.
Luther Gaylord
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 23:57:23 (GMT)

I am hardly a 'liberal' and i do believe that everything you do and everything you say DOES change the world! Now, I don't think whatever people like LG say on here has cahnged the world one iota for the better... - No more of this next year please.
Carsten
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 23:40:09 (GMT)

happy new year from kev lynn phil aimee and daisy dog.and another aimee who has come to stay
kevin forster <kevforster@btinternet.com>
worthing, uk - Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 23:31:38 (GMT)

You're right, Carol, that one protest on inaugeration day will not bring down the reign of the Bushes. But we need to remind the American people what happened this past month. I was talking with my family over the holidays, and many of them said they were happy that this election business was finally at a close; they were "sick of hearing about it". They didn't think much about the illegal actions of the Supreme Court, either because they're stupid, or like many people, their heads were spinning from all the media mess. On January 20th, we need to remind everyone that this election was stolen, that our constitution was pissed on. And we need to keep reminding them again and again. With the same fervor that the moral majority tried to illegitimize Clinton, we need to weaken Bush. I'd like to say that I'm bigger than they are (the conservative right), but really I'm not. My boyfriend thinks I'm being ridiculous and says there are much more effective, more manipulative ways of getting things done than protesting. He's right, and trust me, I plan to pursue those other means, but right now, I just want to go to DC and yell.
Jessica Jolly <jessicajolly@lycos.com>
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 21:47:26 (GMT)

Okay, Carol, let me try a different approach. You love to bang on about how you participated in this rally or that protest, apparently because you believe that it gives you "street cred". You mentioned participating in Food Not Bombs and joining the IWW, though you never went to a single meeting because people smoked there. I've already articulated my worldview and enumerated some of the activities in which I engage to try to bring about a stateless, classless society. But what do *you* do? How long did you participate in Food Not Bombs? Do you still? If not, why not? What kind of society are you trying to create, and what do you do on a daily basis to bring it to fruition? Please do tell.
Luther Gaylord
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 21:47:14 (GMT)

Luther, I did not say that simple acts of kindess will change the world. What I said was that acts of kindness influence people more than rhetoric. Obviously, liberals don't try to take over the infrastructure. That is a revolutionary act. And that's what I did.
Carol
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 21:31:28 (GMT)

Of course you believe that "simple acts of kindness" will change the world, Carol. You're a liberal, and that's what liberals believe. In contrast, I believe that the working class and the employing class have nothing in common. I believe that there can be no peace so long as hunger and want exist among millions of working people while the few, who make up the employing class, have all the good things of life. I believe that the struggle between the haves and the have-nots must continue until the workers of the world organize as a class, take possession of the earth and the machinery of production, and abolish the wage system. That's the difference between you and me.
Luther Gaylord
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 21:16:09 (GMT)

I'm not being nice to you, Luther. I am disputing everything you say. I am pointing out that your acts of kindness have consequences far beyond your rhetoric and nasty comments here on the forum.
Carol
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 21:03:49 (GMT)

Don't try to be nice to me now, Carol, after two years of hostility. I'm not buying it.
Luther Gaylord
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 20:45:01 (GMT)

I want to add to my post below some thoughts on socialism and revolution. First of all, I want to say that I really admire the things that Luther says he does as a radical--helping others, particularly cleaning up for the aged and infirm. I have discovered that these kinds of acts really influence other people far more than radical rhetoric. I noticed that I got more people to sign union cards by being a supportive coworker--advising them on their rights as a worker, giving them the phone numbers of union stewards, or just buying them a drink after work when the bosses were down on them. All that logical and brilliant talk seemed to pass them by, but actions like that really mattered to them, and to others who know they can come to me when necessary. So, Luther, I think you probably have had greater influence on those in Utah than you realize. Now, onto the coming revolution. I am not sure it will happen, but with that stolen election, who knows? I will be in the streets on Jan. 20th, but I doubt if I will take part in any of the real action like I did ten years ago during the Persian Gulf War. I learned a lot about myself and about the efficacy of direct action during that period. In San Francisco, we took over the streets. We closed down the freeways. We marched all night. I was a grandmother, but I was as active as I could be. We faced down the cops who were afraid to stop us, and that was fun! I stood beside an abandoned police car and watched it burn. We marched all night, and then we surrounded the Federal building and shut it down. I was arrested along with around 1000 others. It felt like a great success, but I got sick, and after my fever broke, the streets were again quiet and everybody went back to work. The war went on. Ultimately, we hadn't stopped anything. I am not sure when these kinds of actions are really successfully in bringing governments down, and I sure would like to bring down Bush's illegal reign, but I doubt if the demos on the 20th will do that. Still, it is important for the people to be in the streets demonstrating their disgust. In the meantime, it is also important to do those everyday kinds acts of socialism. Here's to 2001. It might be an interesting year.
Carol
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 20:22:14 (GMT)

Happy New Year everybody. It's still the morning of December 31 here on the other side of the pond. Doing a little cleaning for 2001, I came across a tape that I think Sonja made for me. It is so lovely--Kirsty's father on one side, and some lovely rock and international revolution on the other. I think she said that she copied it from a tape that Brian sent her, so thank you, Brian. I particularly liked the song about going to London to get a job, and if no one will give you a job, burning the town down. Quite jolly, that one! Happy New Year, one and all.
Carol <ctarlen@att.net>
San Francisco, - Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 20:06:18 (GMT)

Bit of a cliche' but Happy New Year to all on the forum ! To Hitlers little elf......love you xxxx(never mind, keep up the therapy you will soon get better!)
Craig
Hull, - Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 19:47:47 (GMT)

At the late show last night, Bill did a nice tribute to Kirsty at the end of the set--talking about working with her, her talent & humour, and giving a charming review of her latest album. Then he sang the song he wrote and she recorded for the film "Mad Love" (As Long as You Hold Me) followed by New England w/the added Kirsty verse. I found it less sad that he had the song books than that he claimed that he hadn't been using the Burns so much lately b/c it is so much heavier than the other guitar and hurts his back! He brought someone up on stage to take a lift of each to prove his point. He went on to play World Turned Upside Down, St Swithins Day, The Only One, and Jabberwocky on it just the same. Ended the show with Shirley as a group effort--he didn't think he could hit the high notes anymore, so the audience was responsible for most of the "Shirley's," "summer years," etc. Great show all in all.
Caroline
NYC, USA - Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 19:15:41 (GMT)

Thanks for that, Jessica. "A New England" is the one song that Braggy has always played, every gig, as far as I'm aware. It will never be quite the same now, of course. Kirsty MacColl was utterly brilliant, just in case anyone was in any doubt.
Pete Crook <petecrook@bigfoot.com>
London, England - Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 18:40:23 (GMT)

Long Island... I'll be the OTHER guy with the English accent... oh and a beer in me hand!
Mark & Patsy
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 18:20:51 (GMT)

Simon, this kind of thing goes on in monkseaton?!! Where? Where?!! Hester, how could i ever forget Geordie Racer? "Howay man spuggie, ah'm gannin doon tae the allotment tae feed me pigeons stotties and broon ale like"...hehe... Does no-one else find it slightly depressing that Billy has to read his own songbook on stage? anyway, happy new year everyone...I'm off to take in the festive cheer on the wring side of the bar for once :)
pete w <hardcoretim@yahoo.com>
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 18:17:00 (GMT)

Well, I don't know where you're coming from, Mark and Patsy, but the snow has all been cleared off the streets in the city. Thanks for the site, Pam.
Jessica Jolly
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 18:05:26 (GMT)

Thanks for the love note Joe, do the math it - don't add up..Love wins..you know you love me black..and I love you to cuz you so stupid. Peace
Harry Paratesteese <JessieOwensKeelleedDemBamaAssNazitswiththosebigassspikedcleats >
Skitzy, Germaney - Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 18:01:21 (GMT)

Well I guess we will have to brave the 12" of snow and make it into the city to see Billy boy tonight. Do I miss England... not a chance.. I get to see Billy on New years eve, and I can still have Boddys beer in me fridge.. Hope you all have a "good one"
Mark & Patsy
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 17:50:33 (GMT)

Keri, Mary, and Bobby...Enjoy ! My plane ain't gonna get me there on time. So get there safe and have a great time. Mary, I hope YOU DIDN"T DRIVE up from NC again! - I hope he plays your song for that...How did the request thing go? Feliz Ano Nuevo
Paul H <briarpatch@dellnet.com>
Costa Mesa, Estados Unidos - Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 17:12:00 (GMT)

http://www.inaugurauction.org/
Pam
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 17:02:58 (GMT)

Pete: Yes, the extra verse in New England was the one for Kirsty MacColl. He gave a whole speech about her life as an artist and what a wonderful friend and mother she was. And yes, I will give a review of tonight's performance. POLITICS: Can anyone point me to a website of one of the activist groups that will be protesting GW Bush's inaugeration? I'm planning on joining the "festivities".
Jessica Jolly <jessicajolly@lycos.com>
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 16:46:20 (GMT)

Keri - enjoy the gig, and I look forward to your review. Eventually. *grin*
Pete Crook <petecrook@bigfoot.com>
London, England - Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 16:37:23 (GMT)

Dear Hitler's Little Elf, fancy popping around to mine for some New Year festivities? The boys and I are going to enjoy a lively discussion about the political positions and roles of Stalin and Trotsky whilst drinking a gallon or two of herbal tea. Later on we'll probably end up whipping our crushed velvet loons off and shag each other rotten. Or will the home not let you out alone? Anyway, Happy New Year little elf, we don't hate you, we pity you.
Simon
UK - Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 15:55:18 (GMT)

oh james, bring the missus and your son--it's a family affair. pete, you won't be without a review... but please allow for the time difference and a mighty hangover.
keri
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 15:38:44 (GMT)

Dear Adolf Hitler's Loyal Servant: Give us a kiss..
Aidan
Sheffield , UK - Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 15:30:49 (GMT)

sad red b******, hippy gay lovers??? Christmas can be too much for some people can't it? Anyway happy hogmany to on and all x
Jennifer <inherhousebyaroaringfire>
Greenock, Scotland - Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 15:11:48 (GMT)

1. ever noticed how you seem to seem to get the sort of stuff posted by hitler's little rentboy during school holidays. 2. ever noticed that the only people who take hitler seriously are emotionally immature and mentally weak (as he was). anyways happy new year!
Jon D
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 15:07:45 (GMT)

And a Happy New Year to all the sad red bastards too!
Jon
Bristol, UK - Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 14:52:30 (GMT)

This is a good time to wish all my hippy gay lovers a happy new year. smooch!
Barbara
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 14:50:15 (GMT)

So... is anyone going to write a review of tonight's gig ?
Pete Crook <petecrook@bigfoot.com>
London, England - Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 14:20:27 (GMT)

You sad red bastards!!all you ever right on here is a load of old shit!!!i want to take you all and put you up against the wall and shoot the lot of you.all you aRE IS A BUNCH OF HIPPY GAY LOVERS,ALL GAY PEOPLE SHOULD DIE ALONG WITH ALL THE OTHER SCUM OF THE EARTH.seeing as this is a free place then i can say what i like.to hell with the lot of you and the battle between the reds and the true right will be won by the right and you will all have to take orders from the great late adolf hitler from the gospel that he left behind!!!HAIL THE TRUE MASTER AND GOD,HITLER.
adolf hitlers loyal servant <hail hitler the provider of all things good>
berlin, nazi germany - Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 13:59:32 (GMT)

Keri, that means my wife gets stuck watching our son and the two dogs by herself. My have I become so domestic. As this point I have to resort to volunteering at soup kitchens and staying close to home.
James
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 13:30:56 (GMT)

hey james, the 20th is a saturday this year--wanna go?
keri
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 13:15:11 (GMT)

well, well jessica sounds like you had fun last night. i am lovin' the snow. we got 12.5 inches here in brooklyn--i could deal with another 12. so we're on for this evening. i'll see you at 7.
keri <it'skeriwithoner>
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 13:12:14 (GMT)

Election Anger Fuels Inaugural Protesters D.C. and U.S. Park Police expect thousands of protesters like David Barrows who believe the presidential election was "stolen." (James A. Parcell - The Washington Post) _____The Transition_____ š Full Coverage š Bush as President š Bush Profiles š Text, Video, Biographies, More _____Federal Page_____ š In the Loop by Al Kamen š Federal Diary by Stephen Barr š Special Interests by Judy Sarasohn š Ideas Industry by Richard Morin and Claudia Deane š More Stories _____OnPolitics_____ š Latest Political News š E-mail Updates What's Your Opinion? E-Mail This Article Printer-Friendly Version By David Montgomery and Arthur Santana Washington Post Staff Writers Thursday, December 21, 2000; Page A10 The raw wounds left by the presidential election finale have created enough irritation to unleash one of the largest inauguration protests in years, according to veteran organizers and police officials. "This will be by far the biggest counter-inauguration since the 1973 Nixon counter-inauguration," predicted Brian Becker, co-director of the International Action Center in New York, who has demonstrated at numerous presidential swearing-in events. "We organize protests not infrequently, and we know when something has legs and when it doesn't have legs. This one does." At the second inauguration of President Richard M. Nixon, police estimated there were 25,000 to 100,000 demonstrators, including some who threw fruit and stones at Nixon's car. The total crowd was about 300,000. D.C. police are expecting about 750,000 people on Jan. 20 when President-elect Bush is sworn in, and they said they think many demonstrators will be content to voice their displeasure peacefully. Becker's group, like several others hoping to flood parts of the city on Inauguration Day, had been planning to be in Washington no matter who won the election. But enough people think the outcome was illegitimate, he said, that it has cranked up protest passion. Within hours of the Dec. 12 U.S. Supreme Court decision blocking Vice President Gore's effort to recount votes in Florida, Becker and other organizers said, their Web sites were deluged with inquiries. "There's a tremendous amount of spontaneous organizing going on," said Becker, 48. A rainbow of left-leaning groups had planned to rally on the Mall to vent outrage at a variety of demons, including racism, the death penalty and the corporate influence on politics. But complaints that some Florida votes were not counted, including those of many African Americans, have given demonstrators powerful common issues. Unlike the street protests against the World Bank in April, no civil disobedience has been planned, organizers say. They said the demonstrations will feature signs, chants, giant puppets, skits and a squad of radical stilt walkers being trained in Philadelphia. "We are not planning to shut down the inauguration," Becker said. "We are planning to make it plain that the inaugural route is not the private property of those who support the death penalty, so we're going to be well-represented on that parade route." D.C. police aren't taking any chances with protesters' intentions, according to Executive Assistant Chief Terrance W. Gainer. He said he expects fewer than 5,000 unruly demonstrators might try to disrupt the inauguration, along with thousands of peaceful demonstrators. In addition to the D.C. force, thousands of suburban and federal officers will participate in what officials described as an unprecedented level of security. The Justice Action Movement, an alliance of Washington area protesters, yesterday sent D.C. Police Chief Charles H. Ramsey a letter requesting a meeting to discuss plans for peaceful protests. Cmdr. Michael Radzilowski, who is in charge of special operations, said yesterday that he would be happy to meet with the protesters. Half a dozen groups have requested permits, but none have been granted. A National Park Service spokesman said the agency is waiting for inauguration planners to make final arrangements before it allots space to protesters. The National Organization for Women plans to be there. "It's important for our own spirit to let people know there is a place to plug in, take that anger and use it to fuel some additional activism," NOW President Patricia Ireland said. The Rev. Al Sharpton and the Rev. Walter Fauntroy plan a "shadow inauguration" outside the U.S. Supreme Court to swear in those pledging to uphold the Voting Rights Act. "We feel the act was violated by George Bush," Sharpton said. Fauntroy, pastor of New Bethel Baptist Church in Shaw, said he has witnessed every swearing-in since President Franklin D. Roosevelt's fourth in 1945, and "I know of no inauguration that has been the source of greater controversy than this . . . following a shameful election." Other activists are planning a Voters March to call for election reform and the abolishment of the electoral college. "Our nation has been traumatized by what has happened in this election," said Louis Posner, a New York attorney leading the effort. Another group, the D.C.-based New Black Panther Party, and its allies plan to stage a Day of Outrage march, said spokesman Malik Shabazz. Other local protest efforts are being coordinated by the Justice Action Movement, a coalition of many who protested the World Bank. They have been holding public meetings for several weeks at George Washington University. They scheduled a news conference today to bring together organizers of various protest efforts. On Monday, several dozen people attended a Justice Action Movement meeting. Most were students or young members of progressive organizations and unions, but several were old enough to have protested Nixon's inauguration. Justice Action Movement has dubbed Jan. 20 the "InaugurAuction," a reference to members' belief that the major parties buy the White House with corporate funds. "Because of a corrupt political system, we now have a president who is going to be threatening the lives of many innocent people because of his support for the death penalty, military policies abroad and free trade," said Adam Eidinger, 27, a movement organizer. At the meeting, the group voted not to use violence, vandalism, weapons, alcohol or drugs. They also decided to remain in small groups scattered all over the Mall, employing creative visual effects and stilt walkers to make their points. After the meeting, several organizers said they suspected a police infiltrator was in their midst. A man with a goatee looked just like a plainclothes officer who figured prominently in confrontations with World Bank demonstrators, according to organizers who said they have videotapes. Before ending a brief telephone interview with The Washington Post, the man denied he was an undercover officer. A police spokesman said there is no one on the force with the name the man used at the meeting. Gainer confirmed that the police have infiltrated the protesters, but he didn't identify anyone. "They're looking for excuses to shut us down," Eidinger said. This week, a few members of Justice Action Movement held a practice InaugurAuction in front of the White House, offering to auction the building for $10 to carpenters building bleachers for the parade. "I don't feel this particular election demonstrates ideally what the presidency is for this country," said Elizabeth Croyden, 30, an actress and film producer who participated. "It exposes a lot of flaws in the system, and I'm upset about it. If you don't get involved, how can you make a difference?" © 2000 The Washington Post Company
James <summerfallwinterspring98@juno.com>
Bush League but angry - Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 13:10:16 (GMT)

why dont you all get a life and follow the master race!!!the red scum are a thing of the past and its the right that will win. i want to hang all the red arse badits from a tree and watch them all die slowly and with lots of pain!!!!
i hate the left wing cunts <better dead than red>
berlin, nazi germany - Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 12:44:40 (GMT)

Except Luther's post was a genuine question. He could make no sense of the post and was asking for clarification. As usual your hate for him colored your interpretation of what he as doing. Why are you guys such reactionaries?
Pam <raverp@hotmail.com>
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 12:43:44 (GMT)

And, yes, I (and more than a few of the old-timers here I'm sure) can vouch for the fact that Bill does indeed need his own songbooks on stage when he plays all-too-rare solo gigs these days...
Pete Crook
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 10:48:15 (GMT)

Thanks for the feedback on the New York gig, folks. Very pleased for you, Jessica ! Can I assume from Jonathanās post that Bill included the ćextra verseä (written for Kirsty MacColl) in ćA New Englandä ? That would be completely unique as far as I am aware (but Iām open to contradiction·), and must have been included as a tribute to her. And Iād like to hear about what Bill said about Kirsty: anyone ?
Pete Crook <petecrook@bigfoot.com>
London, England - Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 10:40:58 (GMT)

The Grammer Police are the skinheads of this guestbook....(:)..Thanks for the call today Laura..
steve <Arsenal 2 v 2 Sunderland.cracking result eh Theo??>
brisbane / sunderland...this year dublin and lisbon, USA - Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 06:20:16 (GMT)

when parking and cold weather stops people going to gigs thats the time to call it a day
steve
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 06:17:53 (GMT)

working class patriot..oh! the British Independance party...I forgot about them?...how could I.....wanker
steve
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 06:17:00 (GMT)

In Newcastle they are called stotties in sunderland flat cakes (10miles apart)
steve
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 06:15:18 (GMT)

opps..stottie cake
steve
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 06:14:25 (GMT)

Sottie Cake or also know as Flat cake...it does have yeast just like ordinary bread, except the dough has slightly more water than normal...once the dough has risen and been knocked back, hand ball them until round and about 8 ounces in weight...leave to stand for 30 minutes then roll out round plate size 12in dia....leave to rise for 40 mins put in very hot oven and half way through baking turn over...12 mins baking time in total....when cooled slice and eat with roasted ham and pease pudding...or dip in yer soup bonny lad
steve <made it 1000s of times>
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 06:13:59 (GMT)

I was at the early show at the Bottom Line, too. Any body know the words in the verse in 'New England' about waiting for a call, which ends "when at last it didn't ring, I knew it wasn't you" ? My compliments to the page turner.
Jonathan <j238@yahoo.com>
NY, USA - Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 04:14:52 (GMT)

Happy New Year to all guestbookers (even Theo) and their families...
Kim <grrrl@community.hipmama.com>
Indiana, USA - Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 04:08:20 (GMT)

I just got back from the first Billy show at the Bottom Line. He was fabulous, doing a solo show which is the only kind of show he should do. And best of all I WAS ON STAGE WITH BILLY BRAGG! That's right, he asked me on stage to turn the page for him (yes, he was reading his own songbook) during "Must I Paint You A Picture", one of my favourites. Of course, I forgot to bring a camera. If anyone on this board was at the show and got a shot of Billy and his page turner, could you scan and send me a copy? Can't wait to see him again tomorrow night with Kerri. Oh, and Kerri, don't you love all this snow?
Jessica <jessicajolly@lycos.com>
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 03:55:03 (GMT)

STEVE - GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT. I SUPPORT THE UK INDEPENDENCE PARTY. *NOT* THE BNP!!!!!!
A WORKING CLASS BRITISH PATRIOT
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 03:18:52 (GMT)

My Geordie mother-in-law makes 'stottie cakes'. It is un-leaven bread - bread made in the usual fashion, except not left to rise a second time. Hot from the oven it is delicious.
Amanda
Adelaide, South Oz - Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 03:03:37 (GMT)

JON - THIS MAY SURPRISE YOU, BUT SOME WORKING CLASS PEOPLE *DO* MAKE IT TO UNIVERSITY!!!!!
A WORKING CLASS BRITISH PATRIOT
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 03:02:15 (GMT)

could someone educate me, and tell me what 'stotties' are? (i seem to remember an episode of 'jordy racer' mentioning them... anyone remember that?).
hester
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 02:01:44 (GMT)

Poliltics: Yes, John Ashcroft is the token "religous right" Christian conservative. A real right-wing wingnut. Suprised that Bush picked him as the rest of his cabinet picks seem fairly sane.
Jeff <dwellej@aol.com>
Dayton, OH, USA - Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 23:08:20 (GMT)

Well, happy New Years from Ohio! It looks like there has been some snow up here! But not much compared to what the East Coast is getting. Sonj, looks like yr local cybercafe is a clean, well-lighted place for websurfing. Interestingly enough I got a Christmas present of a book of areal photos of London and the Thames valley (with text by Alestair Cook). Now I see what alot of London looks like (at least from the air).
Jeff <dwellej@aol.com>
Dayton, OH, USA - Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 23:04:47 (GMT)

well, it's absolutly beautiful here in brooklyn with about 10" of snow. i'm kind of technically snowed in from the pub or perhaps resting up for tomorrow night. CAROL- how about these two words--john ashcroft?? if he turns out to get the attorney general post then i am running away to london to get married. he is a scary, scary man. CARSTEN- to have the grammar police relax and take a break would be an ideal new year's resolution--what do you say luther? happy new year all...hope 2001 is happy and healthy for everyone.
keri <thanks for sending the snow barbara!>
- Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 22:44:54 (GMT)

I see the gramar and punctuation police are out policing the web site. these people must lead such wonderful fufilling lives that they have so much time to engage in monitoring gramaticial errors
XXXXXXXX <get a life>
USA - Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 19:15:08 (GMT)

Sonj and Alberr, Happy New Year and thanks eternally for your lovely support. love from the Ingalls
The Ingalls
- Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 19:01:45 (GMT)

An alternative for all you lucky New Yorkers if you can't make / afford Braggy's gig. GO SEE BLACK 47. "Sunday 31st Connolly's, 14 E. 47th St. (212)867-3767. Tickets are $15 and are on sale at Connolly's Bar. If you can't get tickets, just show up early. We will go onstage at 11pm or thereabouts."
Pete Crook
- Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 18:54:40 (GMT)

Oh shit, smartarse strikes again. Any chance we can leave these juvenile postings behind us in the new year?
Carsten
- Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 18:31:57 (GMT)

If it's not estimated that over 500,000 are expected to crash the inauguration, James, how many *are* expected?
Luther Gaylord
- Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 18:20:40 (GMT)

It is not estimated that over 500,000 are expected to be in DC to rain (rein) hell on Debuya's Inaugural Ball. Robin, the only icecream shop we have over here is "Cookies-N-Cream". Most of the locals go to the Stewart's Shops (kind of like the Wah-Wah in NJ and Penn. Half the price.
James <summerfallwinterspring98@juno.com>
New Paltz, - Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 17:32:37 (GMT)

I'm now very glad I didn't make plans to see BB on New Year's Eve. There will be no parking there with all this snow! That area can also get damned cold (not that this one isn't right now). Is Amy's Ice Cream shop still near there? I haven't been to that section of the island in a while.
Red Robin
- Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 15:23:17 (GMT)

... happy new year james. usual appliance probs, got to argos with another useless toaster but had left receipt in the car. However new multi cooker is brill and alberr is busy decorating the office after being served perfectly cooked eggs and bacon. Bacon not as good as scaifes (james) but at least i had something to cook it on this time carol!!! Siobhan, reminds me of our epic journey to your place via kent when we stopped to cook eggs and bacon and black pudding before we left having raced across country to find a cooker that worked. Will be up in essex tomorrow for the new year festivities.
sonj <braggpuss@hotmail still working when i can get to it>
- Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 14:34:10 (GMT)

Happy New Year Everyone: I hope Billy doesn't get snowed-in NYC . We already have 6" in the valley with another 12" expected by tommorow.
James <summerfallwinterspring98@juno.com>
New Paltz, Bush League - Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 13:56:44 (GMT)

if i can tear alberr away from the old films channel on the cable tv i wil try and send out some new year tv-e-mail greetings tonight. Hope you all have a lovely one
sonj <ian's barbers cyber cafe in hampshire>
- Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 13:31:33 (GMT)

just passing the cybercafe. you can see where i am if you look at http://www.coffeecom.net/
sonj
- Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 13:29:24 (GMT)

A working class british patriot who 'attends' Oxford Brookes University? Doesn't look to bloody working class to me.
Jon
Bristol, UK - Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 12:15:10 (GMT)

talking about wanking a mate if mine had 8 in one day...I found a good therapist for him though...so we have a BNP member here or a silly turd playing games, either way go boil your head cretin
steve
- Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 11:05:11 (GMT)

Come on WCBP, details, details.
Carol <Iguesshewanksin allCAPSwith visions of Queen Vickiewhenhecums>
- Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 03:16:38 (GMT)

Hang on a minute Carol, I'll just ring my dad and ask..
siobhan <actually he's presently married to a middleclass magistrate.>
- Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 02:13:44 (GMT)

CAROL - I DESPISE THATCHER. SHE ALLOWED YET MORE IMMIGRANTS TO SETTLE HERE; SIGNED THE ANGLO-IRISH AGREEMENT; AND TOOK US FURTHER INTO EUROPE!!!!!
A WORKING-CLASS BRITISH PATRIOT
- Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 02:11:22 (GMT)

How does a working class British patriot wank, anyway? Does he/she use props? Do they fantasize Thatcher's boobs and wipe up with the union jack? Just curious.
Carol
- Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 01:22:21 (GMT)

Here's a sour note to add to all this music chat: Have you Europeans been paying attention to our Prez Elect Bush's cabinet appointments? Besides dredging up every Republican still alive who were part of Nixon's, Ford's, Reagan's, and especially papa's administrations, he is appointing all these "social conservatives." Women of America, be afraid, be very afraid. And get this, he wants to reinstate star wars--never worked then and doesn't work now. A billion dollar boondoggle to make his friends in the defense industry happy and rich. And he will start oil drilling in Alaska. Enviornmentalists, be afraid. Be very afraid. I imagine the Democrats will help him pass tax cuts, too. The American people didn't vote this in. But our Demo and Republican representatives will ram it down our throats anyway.
Carol <ctarlen@att.net>
San Francisco, - Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 01:19:12 (GMT)

BILLY BRAGG IS A WANKER!!!!!
A WORKING-CLASS BRITISH PATRIOT
- Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 01:15:11 (GMT)

And then buy the album! There's not enough millionaire socailist folkie protest singer types in this world. Shit, why is it always down to Bill?
Jon
Bristol, UK - Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 00:46:36 (GMT)

Sorry, forgot my email address.
Carsten <notonato@hotmail.com>
- Friday, December 29, 2000 at 23:24:55 (GMT)

Hmmm, don't know who spat on your cornflakes this morning... All I was saying was the website you suggest is not very useful to Europeans as each of the songs takes over an hour and a half to download. Things can be arranged for people in Europe in a much less painful fashion. Got it? -Cheers!
Carsten <ifyoureinterestedindickgaughandropmealine>
- Friday, December 29, 2000 at 23:23:08 (GMT)

Carsten, that was for everyone. I felt magnanimous, okay? Geesh, give me a break.
Pam <raverp@hotmail.com>
- Friday, December 29, 2000 at 23:09:28 (GMT)

Hmmm, strange suggestion to someone sitting in an internet cafe... No need to do anything about Dick Gaughan, Sonj. other than confirm your new address. I wouldn't be at all surprised now if things might just be arranged for you...
Carsten
- Friday, December 29, 2000 at 23:06:42 (GMT)

You can sample some Dick Gaughan songs (thanks to Mean Evil Luther) at the Radical Music Archive. http://hillstrom.iww.org/music/
Pam <raverp@hotmail.com>
- Friday, December 29, 2000 at 22:51:40 (GMT)

Sonj, buy the album! It has a version of The World Turned Upside Down on it.
Jon
Bristol, UK - Friday, December 29, 2000 at 21:25:58 (GMT)

A final reminder that all entries must be in this weekend (before midnight GMT on 31st December) for the Annual Quiz. Just head along to : http://www.webone.com.au/~bragg - Braggtopia! - The Ultimate Billy Bragg Website
Mark Warner <bragg@webone.com.au>
Braggtopia!, - Friday, December 29, 2000 at 21:07:55 (GMT)

thanks Dick! I will buy it next time i am in MVC if the plastic still works. btw i have found the song i am looking for..Kirsty Maccoll - Walking Down Madison Single 1991 Virgin SCDG 1348 Track: Darling Let's Have Another Baby - duet with Kirsty Maccoll .....Have been humming it for days.
sonj
- Friday, December 29, 2000 at 17:20:41 (GMT)

The name of that album is HANDFUL OF EARTH.
Dick Gaughan
- Friday, December 29, 2000 at 17:16:31 (GMT)

OK, somebody tell me where the Kirsty and Billy song about making babies comes from?? I have mislaid (temporarily i hope!!) the cd that Brian made for my which it was on. Better go and help alberr with getting the 'new' office ready ....
sonj
- Friday, December 29, 2000 at 17:16:13 (GMT)

the name of the album that is.... Good news, alberr is getting a room ready in the new place to put the kit in so we should be on lin@home soon!! Tettland ans Ian, i promise the photos will materialise soon!!
sonj
- Friday, December 29, 2000 at 16:51:12 (GMT)

Carsten, he was standing in a field by a power station but i can't remember the name of it.
sonj
- Friday, December 29, 2000 at 16:47:31 (GMT)

Hi Sonj. Great to hear from you. Which Dick Gaughan album did you have in mind?
Carsten
- Friday, December 29, 2000 at 13:37:41 (GMT)

happy new year everybody
love sonj et al
- Friday, December 29, 2000 at 12:10:36 (GMT)

just to update you all on the appliance front ... two new toasters have been returned to the shop... humane mousetrap has totally disappeared along with two layers of posh chocolates from unopened box along with a packet of indigestion tablets. Presumably supermouse came to the rescue and they decided to have a party and play tricks.
sonj <thinking of getting a cat>
- Friday, December 29, 2000 at 12:06:34 (GMT)

steve, alberr and i had a splurge in the CD shop yesterday ( last ditch before unemployment bites) 'fraid i left dick gaughan on the shelf 'til next time but got some great old oysterband stuff with reference to gigging with bill.
sonj
- Friday, December 29, 2000 at 12:01:07 (GMT)

tettland, thanks for the lovely long mail, i will reply soon! I am sure i sent you my adress!!!
sonj <no apolgies for personal messages, i am not at home and don't have addresses>
- Friday, December 29, 2000 at 11:58:48 (GMT)

Hi Carol, we are alive and well! Hope you are much better. Did Kate like the bag? I am in a cybercafe right now.
sonja
- Friday, December 29, 2000 at 11:54:00 (GMT)

And before you ask, I mean the threat of violence to a perfectly rational statement.
Weevil
UK - Friday, December 29, 2000 at 10:05:14 (GMT)

The response from Northern Teen is exactly what I would have expected. True colours and all that...
Weevil
UK, - Friday, December 29, 2000 at 09:57:57 (GMT)

I agree scooter...Cheer up Peter Reid, we know what it means to be top of the League.....C/mon you reds, let's take 3 points off the gooners this week...My mate Julian the spurs fan has gone a bit quiet...
steve
- Friday, December 29, 2000 at 08:11:37 (GMT)

If Spurs win at Wembley in May I'll be a · The final is in Cardiff! Still it's a good year for Spurs when the year ends in 1, We first won the cup when the ·I can't tell you how bad they were last night!!
Dickie <Simplyhavingawonderfulchristmastime>
(Not) Billericay, UK - Thursday, December 28, 2000 at 23:44:15 (GMT)

Buy Bobby a watery wee for me, Willy.
Barbara
- Thursday, December 28, 2000 at 23:18:46 (GMT)

It's snowing on Teesside! Woo hoo. And Weevil, who the hell are you? Cheer up you miserbale b@stard, before I slap a smile onto your face. On a lighter note, I've just discovered a cluster of new songs on Napster by The Clash...early B-sides/singles "1977" "Deny" "Listen"...so 'punk' it's unbelievable.
Northern Teen <teessiders@lycos.com>
- Thursday, December 28, 2000 at 21:32:18 (GMT)

Buy Billy a watery beer for me, Woody.
Barbara <awwwwwwIwishIweregoingtotheshow@bottomline>
- Thursday, December 28, 2000 at 20:32:56 (GMT)

Bragg and company arrive in the states today.
.
- Thursday, December 28, 2000 at 20:28:21 (GMT)

Bragg and company arrive on our shores today.
.
- Thursday, December 28, 2000 at 20:27:30 (GMT)

Hey Sonja: I haven't heard from you in awhile. I hope all is well. Happy 2001 everyone.
Carol Tarlen <ctarlen@att.net>
San Francisco, - Thursday, December 28, 2000 at 20:09:30 (GMT)

steve; I don't think you understand what I mean. I'm referring to the blinkered population of the US who don't realise that there is a world outside their shores. The unbridled nationalism of a country where only 45% of the population own passports, where I get the serious comments, "you speak good English", "Do you celebrate Easter in Australia?", and so on. The American population is generally kept stupid by its media. The government here likes to keep it's general population here stupid and naive. It's just so much easier to control. There's nothing wrong with questioning authority, although here you wouldn't believe that.
scooter
Baltimore now, Formerly Australia - Thursday, December 28, 2000 at 18:31:57 (GMT)

M'bro dynamite? What a load of utter shite. Please keep your idiotic rantings to yourself.
Weevil
UK, - Thursday, December 28, 2000 at 16:05:42 (GMT)

Keri is klarly suverink vrom sewere sexual vrustration - und probably fancies her vather azvell
Sigmund Fraud
- Thursday, December 28, 2000 at 15:42:44 (GMT)

actually i think it has a lot to do with my sleeping on the couch for the last few days. oh my aching back. but anyway, the last dream was a screaming match at the show cause he wouldn't sing auld lang syne. any interpretations on that?
keri
new york, - Thursday, December 28, 2000 at 15:01:59 (GMT)

excellent blues web site....http://www.redlickrecords.com.....and online music and film fair at...www.vip-24.com
steve <having a play>
- Thursday, December 28, 2000 at 11:12:18 (GMT)

a report from my sister who said she thought Billy and the blokes were brilliant (and funny) in Bristol recently(Ive just spoke to her)
steve
- Thursday, December 28, 2000 at 10:38:12 (GMT)

Derek and any other folk fans, there is a great Bert Jansch Double CD just out called Dazzling Stranger, its a 44 track (various label) anthology covering 1965-2000 and only 12.99 (pounds)...Track Records in York England have it and they will send anywhere world wide....Tel is 01904 629022 and fax 01904 610637...e-mail trackyork.fsnet.co.uk...dont expect any power in the union type stuff, but a classic guitarist and influential folk icon.
steve <johnquays@optusnet.com.au>
- Thursday, December 28, 2000 at 10:36:12 (GMT)

It's snowed in Bristol overnight, and I've woken up with a cold! That's the last time I post pseudo medical advice on a message board or email group!
Jon
Bristol, UK - Thursday, December 28, 2000 at 08:18:13 (GMT)

Just for the record, I did not write that last post.
Barbara <notmetheimposterisback>
- Thursday, December 28, 2000 at 06:19:08 (GMT) hey guess who!..you forgot to add..cos the boro are dynamite, and we are all going to enjoy another relegation fight"...(:)"
steve <The Stadium of light the capital of all North East football>


- Thursday, December 28, 2000 at 05:18:31 (GMT)

Arbara: it's OK. People lose Mariel's M all the time. She actually doesn't mind having a name so similar to that of "The Little Mermaid." It was her favorite movie as a baby.
Red Robin
- Thursday, December 28, 2000 at 04:46:49 (GMT)

My my, I wonder who the intelligent, handsome young whipper-snapper was who left that last message. Nice one, mate.
Northern Teen <teessiders@lycos.com>
- Thursday, December 28, 2000 at 02:36:46 (GMT)

OOOOOOOOOOH, his name is TERRY VENABLES, he wears a magic hat, and when HE SAW THE BORO, he said I FANCY THAT!! He could have signed for Leeds, or Sunderland but THEY'RE SH*TE, so he said I'll sign for BORO 'COS THEY'RE F***ING DYNAMITE
Guess Who??
- Thursday, December 28, 2000 at 02:34:00 (GMT)

Wow, didn't know that Maya Angelou wrote a poem for L.G.! I thought it was about conquering racism and glorying in powerful black success! Carsten, I'm sorry I never mentioned Ben Harper here... He's great but still trying to get into his latest. Have had it for a while, only listened to it twice. Was gonna trade it in but am now giving it a second chance. Has anyone seen him in concert lately? What are the "innocent criminals" like? Saw him first with some great percussionists (1996?) and then the next show I saw was rather drab without them... On another note, finally got my copy of "suitable for miners" back after a year long loan to a stranger ("don't lend your friends books out to other people!" says this librarian!) Will be fun to read it again!
Susan <but still like dust I rise>
- Thursday, December 28, 2000 at 02:05:49 (GMT)

Channel 4 are showing "The Harry Hil Xmas Special" tonight - does anyone know is this is the one with Billy on?
Brian
London, UK - Wednesday, December 27, 2000 at 23:48:18 (GMT)

Does my happiness upset you? Why are you best with gloom? Cause I laugh like I've got an oil well pumpin' in my living room.
Barbara <yesyou'rerightCarsten>
itwaswrittenjustforLuther, - Wednesday, December 27, 2000 at 21:31:07 (GMT)

Becareful going out in the snow Carsten, you don't catch a chill. There's been no snow in Bristol, the only white I've seen is vague traces under the veigns in my eyes. Off to put another christian on the fire...
Jon
Bristol, UK - Wednesday, December 27, 2000 at 21:16:49 (GMT)

Alright Barbara, you can stop swearing - I must have missed it. Anyway, don't you think one of the tracks on "Welcome To The Cruel World" sounds like it was written for L.G.? --- Keri, I used to take that stuff that sees you thru Xmas as well :). Belfast is completely snowed under! I almost pity all the good Christians who didn't get a "White Christmas" :)
Carsten <justafterthebestsnowfightinyears>
- Wednesday, December 27, 2000 at 19:04:57 (GMT)

Tell us your dreams Keri. We won't laugh. Really.
Barbara
- Wednesday, December 27, 2000 at 17:56:58 (GMT)

Robin, apologize to Mariel for me for losing her M.
Arbara
- Wednesday, December 27, 2000 at 16:14:34 (GMT)

i've been having bizarre dreams.
keri
- Wednesday, December 27, 2000 at 13:17:55 (GMT)

Sonja: hope you're having a good xmas. Any sign of those BB (and us) in Copenhagen pictures?
Tettland <half way through "still suitable for miners", my best xmas pressie:)>
- Wednesday, December 27, 2000 at 10:05:28 (GMT)

Respect to Sunderland for what they are achieving now, and also to Middlesbrough for getting in the greatest coach in football, even if his tactics did completely stifle the game at White Hart Lane last Saturday...
Pete Crook (southern 40-something)
London, England - Wednesday, December 27, 2000 at 09:06:55 (GMT)

A belated Happy Christmas, a still timely happy Hanukkah, and a very merry New Year to all, especially the Red Strumpets. Mariel says hello to Barbara, Bob I. and James. It is now after 3 a.m. here, so I guess I am having an insomniac attack, after doing a rewrite on my play. One more song to write and a little tweaking of some of the scenes, and I hope to be done - perhaps this week. Now if only I could find that %^#&^% music tape...
Red Robin
- Wednesday, December 27, 2000 at 08:17:28 (GMT)

Carsten I swear we've talked about Ben Harper on this page before but better late then never. You're right he's amazing.
Barbara <willtoliveisinconstantrotation@home>
- Wednesday, December 27, 2000 at 06:33:33 (GMT)

Sunderland won't last the season. I mean, with just ONE arguably class player [Phillips] in a team of eleven? Won't belong before the rest of those claggers run out of steam and not win for about nine games. Jealous? Me? Of course not!
Northern Teen <teessiders@lycos.com>
Stockton-on-Tees, I Hate Niall Quinn - Wednesday, December 27, 2000 at 02:46:33 (GMT)

new years 2000 or 2001.... who cares... it's new years eve with billy--that's what matters.
keri
- Wednesday, December 27, 2000 at 00:09:02 (GMT)

Is it New Years Eve 2000 or is it New Years Eve 2001? Discuss.
.
- Tuesday, December 26, 2000 at 23:50:20 (GMT)

Happy Boxing Day everyone!
murphy <yeehaw@cowboy.com>
Austin, TX - Tuesday, December 26, 2000 at 22:53:06 (GMT)

Does anyone know BEN HARPER and if yes, why did you ba***rd never share your secret knowledge with us??? :) - Just discovering his musique extraordinaire via napster...
Carsten
- Tuesday, December 26, 2000 at 21:27:16 (GMT)

Dundee Utd 0 - Celtic 4 :)
Carsten <thisseasonsoursorsoihope>
- Tuesday, December 26, 2000 at 20:36:01 (GMT)

bradford 1 v 4 sunderland.....3rd...nuff said..enjoying those opiates
steve
- Tuesday, December 26, 2000 at 20:11:16 (GMT)

1901, 1921, 1951, 1961, 1971, 1981, 1991... er ??
Pete
- Tuesday, December 26, 2000 at 19:23:42 (GMT)

Totteham are going to win at Wembley next May. Hey, it's 2001.
Pete Crook
- Tuesday, December 26, 2000 at 19:18:07 (GMT)

On the greatest song lyric ever Grauniad debate that I mentioned earlier, there's been even more braggy input. And checking the papers front (web) page, looks like 2001's gonna be a bundle of fun, in a bombs, jihads, and general death collecting! BTW the partnership of MacGowan/Finer (Pogues) must rank amongst one of the greatest songwriting duo's IMO
Jon
Bristol, UK - Tuesday, December 26, 2000 at 14:34:21 (GMT)

whats the matter Luther, are you in need of a fight....plenty of mailing lists for you to blast off at
steve
- Tuesday, December 26, 2000 at 11:03:19 (GMT)

good old omniscient www.Gaylord.god.com seems to be working under the assumption that he knows who does and doesn't read this guestbook...please masterful one pass on next weekends lottery numbers.
steve
- Tuesday, December 26, 2000 at 11:01:05 (GMT)

Hello All! Merry Christmas! DOes anyone know any good RObbie WIlliams Site? I am looking for the site wioth the nude pics! Thank you!
Greg <ogunquit@cuba.com>
Ogunquit, Maine, USA - Tuesday, December 26, 2000 at 02:08:14 (GMT)

Steve Hossack seems to be operating under the mistaken assumptions that (1) Shane MacGowan can read and (2) he reads Billy Bragg's website guestbook.
Luther Gaylord
- Tuesday, December 26, 2000 at 01:53:53 (GMT)

Shane MacGowan, Happy Birthday, stay alive for fucks sake will you, Piss off the hangers-on and the wasters that surround you, listen to Sinead Shane and consider how your loved ones will feel if you snuff it..love steve
steve <johnquays@optusnet.conm.au>
- Tuesday, December 26, 2000 at 01:19:48 (GMT)

That Billy fan fiction site is back up. Evidently she moved the links or something. The old pages now link up to the new ones: http://ejadler.tripod.com/bragg.html
Lindsey Leary <lindseydj@europe.com>
Baltimore, USA - Tuesday, December 26, 2000 at 00:41:59 (GMT)

MERRY CHRISTMAS everyone, yet again....I'm eating ham and pease pudding stotties and drinking vast amounts of christmas beer and smoking vast amounts of christmas tabs. Usually the festive season is really depressing but today, it's ok so far :)
pete w <hardcoretim@yahoo.com>
- Monday, December 25, 2000 at 13:57:49 (GMT)

...but I'll take the cheesecake, Steve...
Pete
- Monday, December 25, 2000 at 11:54:35 (GMT)

Kirsty's music is ringing around our house on Christmas Day.
Pete Crook
- Monday, December 25, 2000 at 11:47:46 (GMT)

Indonesia is also quite highly populated by Hindu's, and while we were on holiday there (Bali) we were told of quite violent clashes between Hindu's and 'Christians / Catholics' (mostly tourists) and muslims. This was just after the election where, even though the Muslim representative failed to score hardly any votes, as they are in a 5% minority, they still managed to elect a Muslim prime minister.
Jon
Somewhere, UK - Monday, December 25, 2000 at 08:27:02 (GMT)

Pete, only if you join me for some mandarin cheesecake , Im just making some iced fresh fruit puree to pour over
steve
- Monday, December 25, 2000 at 07:48:22 (GMT)

Shit, the kids just woke me up. What day is it, anyway ..? Oh, yeah. Anyone want to come round for black olive and red wine pate, mushroom brioche, cashew nut sauce and paprika rice later ?
Pete Crook
- Monday, December 25, 2000 at 06:33:43 (GMT)

"Who in the hell d'you think you are, A super star? Well, right you are. Well we all shine on, Like the moon and the stars and the sun. Yeah we all shine on On and on and on on and on." Peace.
Carol
ctarlen@att.net, - Monday, December 25, 2000 at 04:14:08 (GMT)

some articles from the post carsten sent below...WHAT NICE CIVILISED PEOPLE HUMANS ARE, HYPOCRITES ON MOST LEVELS...." At least 10 people have died and dozens left injured in a wave of synchronised bomb attacks across Indonesia, targeting Christian worshippers at Christmas Eve services. ...the simultaneous timing of so many blasts is bound to throw suspicion on elements of the military. ......Christians make up less than 5% of the population of Indonesia - the world's most populous Muslim state. Christmas celebrations are coinciding this year with the final days of Islam's holy month of Ramadan, which ends on Tuesday night. Religious tensions Over the past two years, escalating clashes between Christians and Muslims in Indonesia have claimed thousands of lives. Religious tensions have risen in recent months throughout the Indonesian archipelago. The most serious trouble has been in the Moluccan islands in Indonesia's east, where an estimated 5,000 people of both faiths have been killed in two years of sectarian violence. Search BBC News Online Advanced search options BBC ONE TV NEWS WORLD NEWS SUMMARY BBC NEWS 24 BULLETIN PROGRAMMES GUIDE See also: | Asia-Pacific In pictures: Indonesian bombings 13 Sep 00 | Asia-Pacific Analysis: Indonesia's fragile archipelago 07 Dec 00 | Asia-Pacific Moluccas Christians bombed 25 Sep 00 | Asia-Pacific Violence flares across Indonesia 02 Jul 00 | Asia-Pacific Analysis: Behind the Moluccan violence 14 Jul 00 | Asia-Pacific Moluccan militants: God on our side Internet links: Indonesia Online Indonesian Government The BBC is not responsible for the content of external internet sites Other top Asia-Pacific stories: Bombs target Indonesian churches Japan boosts military might Stand-off in Korean bank protest Chinese robbers face shoot-to-kill policy Philippines reflects during trial recess Australian flights hit by delays Whales swim to freedom Fears over Japan's ageing population Links to top Asia-Pacific stories are at the foot of the page.
Steve <the xmas disco version of Fog On The Tyne was good?????.>
bet you never heard that one PeteC, - Monday, December 25, 2000 at 01:35:58 (GMT)

Happy [insert whatever here] to all... Here's my non denominational poem by Paul Eluard, French poet,: "Worker" // Seeing timber in the trees // Roads into the mountains // In the days of youth, days of strength // Bending iron and shaping stone // adorning nature // Nature without her dress // I work.
derik
- Monday, December 25, 2000 at 00:25:51 (GMT)

happy christmas-i love you baby.speak to you all later
kev <kevforster@btinternet.com>
worthing, uk - Monday, December 25, 2000 at 00:05:49 (GMT)

Hi Carsten: I know you don't celebrate Christmas, but that doesn't mean I can't have your wee ones in my thoughts. How's Belfast? I really liked the city when I visited there. A lovely place with lovely people.
Carol
- Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 23:32:10 (GMT)

hi brian.. how is the little one taking all the excitment?
keri
- Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 23:29:21 (GMT)

hi brian.. how is the little one taking all the excitment?
keri
- Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 23:29:16 (GMT)

best xmas OFAH: A Royal Flush - when del pulls out the sawn-off pump action shotgun at the clay-pigeon shoot is fantastic
Brian
London, UK - Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 23:16:04 (GMT)

nobody mentioned Christmas in Hollis by Run DMC - oh yeah - cos its rubbish
Brian
London, UK - Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 23:12:58 (GMT)

Thanks very much, Carol. Cian‡n & Niamh don't celebrate Christmas (they'll get their pressies on New Year's Day) but we all still wish you a great winter holiday! --- Steve, ye ol' fruit cake, now you're really exaggerating: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/asia-pacific/newsid_1086000/1086275.stm
Carsten
- Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 22:32:37 (GMT)

My three favorite Christmas songs have already been mentioned: Fairy Tale of New York, Merry Christams (baby please come home) and of course, Lennon's Happy Chirstmas, War is Over. Siobhan, Theo, Carsten and Rob, please give your respective little ones Christmas hugs from me. Here's to all the lovely children I met in England and Ireland: Cianan, Jack, Ruby, Tillie, Chloe--you are all in my thoughts this Christas Eve.
Carol <ctarlen@att.net>
- Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 21:52:22 (GMT)

I dedicate today to Kirsty MacColl..and the following lines from Fairy Tale of New York, apply them where they fit...."You took my dreams, from me when I first found you, I kept them with me babe, I put them with my own, Can't make it alone, I've built my dreams around you"
Steve <johnquays@optusnet.com.au>
Merry Xmas Bill and family, Corrina and Toby, - Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 21:34:49 (GMT)

IITTTSS XXXXXXMMMMMMMAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSS
steve
- Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 21:28:10 (GMT)

John Lennon's..Happy Xmas (war is over) is my fave xmas record
steve
- Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 21:27:32 (GMT)

Best Christmas Song: Merry Christmas (Baby please come home) by Darlene Love. And love to all of you.
Barbara
- Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 20:59:24 (GMT)

How lucky were Middlesbrough to get away from Tottenham with a point ? OK, it's Christmas.
Pete Crook <petecrook@bigfoot.com>
London, England - Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 20:47:59 (GMT)

If i put forward Mogwai's "Christmas Steps" as the best christmas tune ever, will i be laughed at? Nah fuck it, the best christmas song ever is undoubtedly the Fairytale of New York :) Happy festivities folks!
pete w <aaaaargh>
- Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 20:17:49 (GMT)

A Merry Christmas to all, hope you have an excellent Christmas and Merry New Year! Peace and Love to ALL Regards Craig.. Hull UK
Craig
Hull, - Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 20:16:33 (GMT)

happy christmas gang! i hope everyone enjoys a peaceful holiday season with friends and family. just 7 days until my present to myself. ERIN: don't work too hard...
keri
nowhere, ny , again!!! - Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 17:37:22 (GMT)

Quiet here today, ah well. Merry Xmas all, and to echo Northern Teen. Best Christmas Song Fairytale of New York, closely followed by The Ramones Merry Christmas, Best Christmas film / program is tied by Bert Raccoon's Christmas and Charlie Brown's Christmas, unless there's a Simpsons Christmas.
Jon
Bristol, UK - Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 16:54:08 (GMT)

Merry Christmas everybody! (Even those Sunderland and Spurs supporters out there!) Best Christmas Song: that one by Mike Oldfield Best Christmas Film: "Muppet's Christmas Carol" - superb. Best Christmas Only Fools&Horses: the one with Peckham Spring Water
Northern Teen <teessiders@lycos.com>
- Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 15:28:19 (GMT)

good result today dyl...a goal in the last 5 minutes for northampton, have amerry holiday
steve
- Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 13:03:25 (GMT)

Happy Christmas to all on the guestbook. If you don't celebrate Christmas then I wish you peace and happiness!
Dyl
- Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 12:45:41 (GMT)

xmas eve...and Ive just got back from church..hahahaha..(joke)...been up to a nearby mountain, star watching and saw two shooting stars??..eeekkk...just fancied some good old fashioned xmas music in front of my air conditoning unit and blowing fan as its 38c...so I put on The Mighty Fall's 'Live at the Witch Trials'.I'd forgot how good it was..now for a little gentle Grotesque from The Fall..I bought some appalachian music, lots of geordie references and coalmining type songs
steve <johnquays@optusnet.com.au>
leave the capital exit this roman shell, - Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 12:37:23 (GMT)

....and have a go at the quiz while you are there ! Closing date is 31st December 2000
Mark Warner <bragg@webone.com.au>
Braggtopia!, - Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 06:51:41 (GMT)

Billy Bragg with John Peel and crew in a seasonal singalong from 1996 - your MP3 gift from Braggtopia! To collect your present go to : - http://www.webone.com.au/~bragg - and select the tab for MP3 Downloads. - Ho! Ho! Ho! - Braggtopia! The Ultimate Billy Bragg Website http://www.webone.com.au/~bragg
Mark Warner <bragg@webone.com.au>
Braggtopia!, - Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 06:49:11 (GMT)

Paul was that freudian slip??
steve <johnquays@optusnet.com.au>
- Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 04:28:04 (GMT)

Nevski said .."im quite impressed with steves recent preachings. he is now my church" ... ..YOU DONT NEED A CHURCH NEVSKI..as an atheist I have no belief in a creator ...a big difference, dont confuse athiesm as a faith -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SOME OTHER SUPERSTITOUS PERSON FULL OF FEAR ALSO SPOUTED..." In many places the land shall be left untilled, and there shall be great slaughters of the upper class. The right hand of the world shall fear the left, and the north shall prevail over the south. Hmmm..." THE HHMM AT THE END IS SO FUNNY...legends myths fear and superstitions , may your xmas be free from the shackles of them all.....Siobahn I have a friend who is a Hindu and just became a Swami...although it doesnt stop her driving a personalised number plate on a mercedes and wearing $250.000 of jewllery and being a nasty bastard most of the time..Hindu's have to be one of the biggest groups of religious hypocrites Ive ever come across.
steve <sunderland 1 v 0 man city>
phew, - Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 04:26:47 (GMT)

Steve, I thought of you as my six year old asked me to write her a letter excusing her from the carol service. Truth is however, that her best friend is a hindu and she wasn't going. I wrote the letter anyway. So, much love and peace to all at the BBgb (something that has brightened up my year no end).
siobhan
- Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 03:16:03 (GMT)

ooops! no xmas for john quays
paul griffiths <pablogriffo@netscape.net>
perth, australia - Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 02:37:28 (GMT)

on xmas for john quays
paul griffiths <pablogriffo@netscape.net>
perth, australia - Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 02:35:09 (GMT)

But Pete, Durruti and Carol are right. It's always a victory. It's always worth it.
Barbara <beofgoodcheer@wintersolsticetime>
- Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 00:40:41 (GMT)

I wish I could be that optmistic...... I kniow this is sad, but tonnight i wrote "!No Pasaran!" on my black guitar, and "Vicisti, O aspidistra!" on my anmp speaker....
pete w <rock revolutionary/commidified dissent>
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 23:50:37 (GMT)

Happy Holidays all. I never think of our Winter Solstice romp as religious--but it is a time for us to collectively celebrate renewal, peace and light. So for my friends here on the guestbook (and especially Barbara, Robin, and Sonja) here is something that Buenaventura Durruti, the anarchist who was killed in the Spanish Civil War, said. His words help me through some long, dark nights: "It may be that we shall lose our next battle, in the bourgeois sense of the word; but to fight and lose a battle must enver effect a revolutionarty, because he must know that his trusted weapon is always the struggle for the casuse he believes in...therefore the simple act of joining battle is a victory in itself."
Carol <ctarlen@att.net>
San Francisco, - Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 21:44:45 (GMT)

IT'S SOO COLD I WILL STAY LOCKED IN MY ROOM HIDING IN MY WARM BED UNTIL JUNE WELL THERE IS SNOW FOR CHRISTMAS
kicker <kickerlib@yaho.com>
hamilton, canada - Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 21:44:15 (GMT)

Red hair and glasses and separated at birth· *grin*... if only I could get the same music out of my Strat that Larry Kirwan can from his. Anyway, for all you UK posters: Larryās hoping to tour solo over here in March, and, even more excitingly, is trying very hard to get the band over here for the Fleadh and a short tour next June. Just to serve advanced notice that I will be calling a three-line whip when this guy finally hits these shores. Believe me, you do not want to miss him.
Pete Crook <petecrook@bigfoot.com>
London, England - Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 19:33:12 (GMT)

Happy Holidays to the folks that celebrate and Happy Holidays to the rest of you anyway. Sonj and Alberr, warmest greetings from the Ingalls. Carol, you must get well soon so I may drink with you at Specs. Robin, keep kicking righteous ass you excellent Commie babe (say hi to Ariel for me)
Barbara <iactuallyhavetogofuckingshopping>
oy!, - Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 18:31:49 (GMT)

Sonja: you never did send me your new postal address so your Chrissie card is still sitting on my table. But Merry Xmas everybody. The Danish xmas is tomorrow but we'll be celebrating on 25th, too! Duck on Sunday and Turkey on Monday (clearly not a vegetarian, then :))
Tettland
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 18:28:37 (GMT)

Christmas sucks
Desert Rat Shorty <http://desertratshorty.homestead.com>
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 18:25:03 (GMT)

Happy festive season every body. Get well soon Carol!!!
sonj
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 17:51:35 (GMT)

hi robin, the bragg office have worked out that i can only use my free cable tv access when the BBgb is a few pages long. Otherwise i have to pay to use my pc modem connection, that is if i had one to use which i haven't at the moment, so i'm with you.
sonj <well, it makes sense to me!>
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 17:48:32 (GMT)

Also - it ties up Internet Explorer so I don't even have the option to go to another page until this page loads. We don't really need more than two weeks at a time of You-Know-Whose rants and the reactions to them.
Red Robin
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 17:44:56 (GMT)

To the Bragg Office: Please consider archiving the posts here every two weeks or so. This page takes forever to load and eats up a ton of memory. It has crashed my computer the previous 3 times I tried to log in here. No other site in recent memory has done this to my computer. TIA.
Red Robin
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 17:41:00 (GMT)

Pete Crook & Larry Kirwin seperated at birth? Nice photo's Pete.
Jon
Bristol, UK - Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 17:15:59 (GMT)

Does anybody Know where I can get a copy of The Peel Sessions or any album with A13 Trunk Road to the Sea on it?
Pete gedling <pgedling@hotmail.com>
Epping, England - Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 15:16:12 (GMT)

nevski - You just helped a certain someone reach a certain quota, and get a little closer to a certain non god. Perhaps I've just witnessed non christmas miracle. How wonderful.
Michael <keepingitreal@stupid>
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 15:10:44 (GMT)

im quite impressed with steves recent preachings. he is now my church. happy 2 days off work for no reason... st mon day and st tues day. see u all in the millenium.. hang on, i dont know what to believe in anymore....
nevski <santaclaus is drunk>
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 13:13:24 (GMT)

Talking about prophecies, this is what St. Anthony the Abbot said in the 4th Century...In the 20th century there will be wars and fury that will last a long time; whole provinces shall be emptied of their inhabitants, and kingdoms shall be thrown into confusion. In many places the land shall be left untilled, and there shall be great slaughters of the upper class. The right hand of the world shall fear the left, and the north shall prevail over the south. Hmmm...
xxxxxx
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 12:48:45 (GMT)

For anyone who's interested, my pics of Larry Kirwan's recent gig in Wexford are here: http://home.btclick.com/pete.crook/billy/photos/wexford/wexford.htm.
Pete Crook <petecrook@bigfoot.com>
London, England - Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 10:33:30 (GMT)

Or even 99999 out of 100000...
Pete
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 09:19:42 (GMT)

And on a slightly bizarre note (I only ever watch the news and football on TV, so am not in a position to comment): both my partner Jill and son Seth absolutely INSIST that Darren Hanlon's "Beta Losers", from his "Early Days" CD, is used on a UK TV advert for The Gap. Anyone ? I'm not about to slag him if this is the case: it's just that I find it too bizarre to be true, given that 999 out of 1000 Brits would say "Darren who ?"
Pete
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 09:11:40 (GMT)

Heh. Thanks for the grammatical correction Geoff, but hey, I'm a Cockney (well, by proxy), and we're allowed to get away with stuff like that...
Pete Crook <petecrook@bigfoot.com>
London, England - Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 09:06:19 (GMT)

http://www.whiskypriests.co.uk/photos.htm...SOME GOOD PHOTOS HERE OF THE GEORDIE BAND WHISKY PRIESTS..also they have a new project...Gary and Glenn Miller celebrate their 15th Anniversary as The Whisky Priests, and marks the birth of their new project, Mad Dogs and Englishmen, an acoustic trio, which also features Joseph Porter of Blyth Power...be there or be silly
steve <johnquays@optusnet.com.au>
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 07:44:52 (GMT)

eeekkk..another sign
sh
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 07:38:38 (GMT)

so this is xmas.....
rokerite
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 07:38:06 (GMT)

so this is xmas.....
rokerite
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 07:37:59 (GMT)

refusing supernatural programming is not preaching...keep it simple stupid...xxxx..fuck god fuck jesus fuck the shite that goes with it...tell you what though the pease pudding is something else...PeteW if your grannie is still around tell her its the best recipe Ive used..
steve <godless in the sun>
laugh you miserable bastards, (:>) - Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 07:34:40 (GMT)

Steve: get out tonight to see 'those bloody mckennas' at the normanby hotel - normanby fiveways petrie terrace.
geoff
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 06:55:50 (GMT)

Steve ö Keep preaching your whatever... It's quite whatever... I just finished a full helping of whatever and it was absolutely whatever...
Michael <yourhatred@whatever>
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 05:02:46 (GMT)

youll be sorry you laughed when youre in agony. i see satan claws (oh come on, he wears red - hes obviously the devil incarnate) has really worked his evil magic on your sorry ass, there is still time, repent now and your soul will be saved.
hester
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 04:50:05 (GMT)

I won a ham, so Im making some pease pudding anyone fancy some
steve
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 04:46:28 (GMT)

dont forget I stood on the terraces of Sunderland AFC for 25 years, Ive been to hell and back..an inflicted catholic once said I will be shovelling soot for eternity??..I replied my ancestors have been doing it underground for 300 years, now fuck off....lol
steve
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 04:44:50 (GMT)

hahahahahahahahahahaha...more
steve
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 04:40:42 (GMT)

steve - well maybe it is a sign. lets face it, yahweh will smite you down with his vengeful and mighty wrath, you unbeleiver you - youll spend the rest of eternity burning in the firey bowels of hell, youll suffer torments that make the holocaust look like an ickle kiddies game. then youll look up to heaven and see all the lovely blonde haired, blue eyed american children playing in a nice suburban garden, and think back, and wish youd been more open minded about the significance of that cd...
hester
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 04:38:16 (GMT)

siobhan, I worked 80 hours this week and do I need this break, snapped up some cheeky cds today...northumbrian pipe music by joe hutton,...swan lake cd...Bob Dylan's New Morning..The Ruts Ruts album..and John Babbecombe Lee by Fairport Convention..awesome story...I ordered Nee Gud Luck by the whisky priests and amazon sent me a religous cd instead(bastards)...now some theist will tell me its a sign...(:)...come on Boro sunderland need you to beat spurs(sorry petec)
steve
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 03:31:10 (GMT)

happy birthday jesus ......you little shit you, and while were on, look at the fucking misery and hatred and death & starvation you have caused for 2000 years, thank fuck you and your (sadly in need of threapy) disciples(church worshippers) are on the decline, and the quicker people realise your silly twat of a dad is an imaginery totem the better...but overall a clever book of libels is the bible...merry xmas..(:)
steve <johnquays@optusnet.com.au>
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 03:22:10 (GMT)

well, I'm sickeningly jealous of all this holiday talk since i)we have no snow, ii)I am working on Christmas Day and Boxing Day, iii)I have bought my children too many presents and not paid the phone bill, iv) I waited on a party of 40 (forty) nurses last night and they never left a tip (and no service charge in my restaurant). Happy Christmas your arse
siobhan <Bah humbug@bitter and twisted.com>
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 02:07:20 (GMT)

Actually, that's a very enjoyable link for us old farties, Northern Teen! All the tracks from the first 80% of the old Festive Fifty section were recognizable to me, who is unaware of the world of music since ~1985...
Boguespierre
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 01:52:50 (GMT)

is no one gonna wish the lovely baby jesus a happy birthday? you HEATHENS!!!!
hester
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 00:18:44 (GMT)

PeteC: shouldn't that be "Seth, Jack and I will be there"? - sorry, couldn't resist that one!
geoff
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 00:18:29 (GMT)

HAPPY HANUKKA!!! ok its a whole 9 minutes late, but im sorry!!
hester
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 00:16:55 (GMT)

In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: "Come the millennium, month twelve, in the home of greatest power, The village idiot will come forth to be acclaimed the leader."
Red Robin
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 00:03:54 (GMT)

See ya down the Railway Tavern on White Hart Lane, then...
Pete
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 00:00:18 (GMT)

COME ON BORO
Northern Teen <teessiders@lycos.com>
- Friday, December 22, 2000 at 23:55:02 (GMT)

Tottenham v Middlesbrough tomorrow, of course, and me, Seth, and Jack will be there...
Pete
- Friday, December 22, 2000 at 23:48:24 (GMT)

of course the words Dick Turpin posted at.... Friday, December 22, 2000 at 18:34:08 (GMT)are the words to the Majestic Alan Hull song 'Winter Song'...nothing but a classic....Have a great holiday PeteC...and love to your family and everyone else Ive battled with, insulted, pissed off and made great friends with...but scooter arent you being rather elitist to say people are blinkered because they dont agree with you?...people may make more informed opinions than you imagine...WHEN we all engage in ritual superstitous behaviour this Xmas and hand gifts over in the name of a idol(christ) remember the real christianity is the medievil christianity and all the cruelties that go with it
steve <johnquays@optusnet.com.au>
33c inbrisbane, have a good one Geoff, Theo, Kim, Laura, Derek,Luther,Teen,Petec,PeteW,Pam, Jon, Jon??.. - Friday, December 22, 2000 at 23:38:58 (GMT)

Sorry about this. I won't waste anymore space with my pointless ramblings
Northern Teen <BBBBBored>
boooooooRED, bored. - Friday, December 22, 2000 at 23:17:42 (GMT)

BRING BACK THE TERRACES!
Northern Teen
- Friday, December 22, 2000 at 23:16:44 (GMT)

don't talk to me about Dawson's Creek. It's just mush. It's for girls. It is the most unrealistic thing on tele - teenagers aren't like that. real life isn't like that. yet people say there's valuable life lessons in it & that teenagers associate with it. b*llocks man! if you think your life's like that, you're living in a dream
Northern Teen <bored>
borrrrrred, bOrEd - Friday, December 22, 2000 at 23:15:25 (GMT)

Buffy The Vampire Slayer. Why don't they just put it out of its misery. Surely one of the rubbishest shows on tv. Amazing, because the first series was superb - excitement&goodstorylines&smglookinglikeafox - but then the b@stards strayed into Dawson's Creek territory. uuuuurrrrgh. no more romance i can't stand it anymore
Northern Teen <bored>
bored city, boredom - Friday, December 22, 2000 at 23:12:51 (GMT)

boring boring boring BORING boring aaaaarrrrrggh. i think i'll download some atari teenage riot songs
Northern Teen
- Friday, December 22, 2000 at 23:09:33 (GMT)

Hey people, did anyone notice that Billy Bragg was on John Peel's Festive Fifty programme the other night? He was taking part in the celebrity quiz with Peely mastering, and Jarvis Cocker, Graham Coxon and some bloke from Hefner joining Billy to battle it out. Dunno who won, like. Mr Bragg was apparently pratting around in the background throwing bits of paper at everyone. You can listen to all these capers by going to http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/djs/peel_festive_fifty_special.shtml But don't bother anyway, it's a bit sh** really
Northern Teen <teessiders@lycos.com>
- Friday, December 22, 2000 at 23:07:17 (GMT)

Its OK Michael. I can see the connection. I remember the Two Booths in Park Slope. They would give the kids tiny pieces of dough to play with. It was one of the few places, where children could be kept busy and they had food for adults. Only bar in NYC (to my knowledge) that Anchor Steam Beer on tap.
James
- Friday, December 22, 2000 at 20:48:00 (GMT)

michael... it's close to my work and it's cheap. plus i don't like a ton of crap on my pizza--like two boots.
keri
- Friday, December 22, 2000 at 20:38:14 (GMT)

Keri - I'll have to visit The Pizza Box. Is it better than Two Boots pizza? James - I'm Sorry for linking Octavio Paz to The Gang of Nine.
Michael
- Friday, December 22, 2000 at 20:30:27 (GMT)

Though Steve (the Mackem from Brisbane via Sunderland) and I will always have our differences, I was listening to a quite wonderful tape of Alan Hull / Lindisfarne's music which Steve sent to me (cheers Steve), whilst in the wild wasteland of Hayes in West London (Steve Perryman territory NB) in that ridiculous search for elusive Christmas presents for the kids. It was so incongruous it wasn't true: there was Jacka screaming in me ear about socialism while I was queueing up at Argos.
Pete Crook <petecrook@bigfoot.com>
London, England - Friday, December 22, 2000 at 20:11:17 (GMT)

Michael, I hope not. The Florida papers are acting on their own. As for that "quote", I would not insult the great Octavio Paz, buy associating him with that despicable body, collectively known as "THE US SUPREME COURT"
James
- Friday, December 22, 2000 at 19:59:19 (GMT)

Thanks for that James, but are you sure you are not quoting the US Supreme Court?
Michael
- Friday, December 22, 2000 at 19:13:03 (GMT)

Illiterate I raised my face to the sky that huge stone of worn-out letters but the stars told me nothing
Octavio Paz
- Friday, December 22, 2000 at 19:05:39 (GMT)

Instead of kicking the asses of "stupid sheep" voters, Luther, you may want to consider the simple fact that punch card voting machines (which are far more prevalent in poorer voting districts) produced five times as many of the so-called "under votes" than the more modern, optical scanning machines (which are far more prevalent in richer communities). Therefore, over 30,000 of the 40,000 people in Florida were denied their most fundamental American right because of their economic status.
Michael
- Friday, December 22, 2000 at 18:59:07 (GMT)

When Winter's shadowy fingers first pursue you down the street/And your boots no longer lie about the cold around your feet/Do you spare a thought for Summer who's passage is complete?/Whose memories lie in ruins and whose ruins lie in heat/When Winter...comes howlin' in...
Dick Turpin (or Palmer if you prefer) <Black-Bess@myth.co.uk>
York, UK - Friday, December 22, 2000 at 18:34:08 (GMT)

looking forward to seeing Billy & the Boys at the Bottom Line Dec 30. Very sad news on the tragic death of Billy's friend and great singer Kirsty MacColl, and of 10,000 Maniacs lead guitarist Robert Buck, both will be terribly missed.
Mike Messina <mmtwenty3@aol.com>
Maspeth, NY, USA - Friday, December 22, 2000 at 18:31:07 (GMT)

We have about 2" of snow in beautiful New Paltz. It looks cool hanging on the trees. The election nonsence is not going to go away that easy. Using a application from the Freedom Of Inormation Act, two Florida based newspapers are filing suit demanding to "count the votes themselves. If they determine Gore actually recieved the plurality of votes, it will cast doubt (which already exists) as to the ligitimacy of his presidency. (Ha!) Will that mean we can refer to him as the Bastard President remains to be seen. What a sad week Kristy McCall, Robeuck Staples, Milt Hinton (upright basist) all passed away.
james
New Paltz, - Friday, December 22, 2000 at 18:08:18 (GMT)

If you're looking to kick some ass, Jessica, you'd better include all the stupid sheep who trudged down to the polls, palm cards in hand, and did as they were told rather than thinking for themselves. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_exnews/20001121_xex_condo_comman.shtml
Luther Gaylord
- Friday, December 22, 2000 at 17:47:43 (GMT)

Is anyone able to tell me when Billy's album is coming out based on Woody Guthrie's Children's songs? Thanks and have a merry Christmas all....
scooter <sadlingt@Lww.com>
Baltimore, USA - Friday, December 22, 2000 at 17:26:28 (GMT)

Happy Holidays everyone! I'll be in FloriDUH for Christmas. I'm planning to give Jeb Bush, Katherine Harris, and half the residents of West Palm a swift kick in the ass. Anyone else I'm forgetting?
Jessica <jessicajolly@lycos.com>
- Friday, December 22, 2000 at 16:56:50 (GMT)

ok, everyone who doesn't want to be at work today raise your hand...
keri
- Friday, December 22, 2000 at 16:54:14 (GMT)

The flurries are lovely. . . but it never sticks in our concrete jungle.
Jessica <ilovepizzaboxonbleekertoo>
NYC, - Friday, December 22, 2000 at 16:49:05 (GMT)

michael--i'd have to go with papa johns... but living in new york one doesn't dare eat chain store pizzas.
keri <pizzaboxonbleecker>
- Friday, December 22, 2000 at 15:38:28 (GMT)

you too derik... but isn't the snow lovely? i love it.
keri
- Friday, December 22, 2000 at 15:09:51 (GMT)

Happy holidays to all (whatever one you celebrate or ignore). Time for my week off.
derik <aargh, snowing again in Philly!>
- Friday, December 22, 2000 at 14:26:43 (GMT)

Apologies if this isnāt of relevance, but please note that if anyone is sending (or has sent over the past two days) email to my work address, I wonāt get to see it Ītil January 8. Please just use petecrook@bigfoot.com for now. Ta.
Pete Crook <petecrook@bigfoot.com>
London, England - Friday, December 22, 2000 at 09:00:36 (GMT)

Apparently, "The American public doesn't need the Supreme Court to tell them which pizza they like better," we simply need them to determine the presidency... http://www.boston.com/news/daily/21/pizza_fight.htm
Michael
Thin Crust, New Jersey - Friday, December 22, 2000 at 01:21:38 (GMT)

The Guardian are holding an online 'chat' in the notes & queries section, glad to see that Bill has 2 enteries.."All my friends from school Introduce me to their spouses While I'm left standing here With my hands down the front of my trousis" and "Like a bully boy in a Benetton shop, Your never happy with what you've got, until what you've got has gone,,,,," Now if I can only figure out how to submit to this.
Jon
Bristol, UK - Thursday, December 21, 2000 at 23:45:52 (GMT)

Good luck, Sonja....you have my support, however insignificant and crappy it may be. And yes, I think I am obliged to be posh now, but I will endevour to purge the taint left on Lady Margaret Hall college by the presence of Anne Widdecombe :) the only other alumni mentioned was Benazir Bhutto.....
pete w <hardcoretim@yahoo.com>
- Thursday, December 21, 2000 at 22:57:10 (GMT)

Sonj: "I am suffering BBgb withdrawal symptoms." ...ditto....but I would like to wish everyone here at the BBgb a Merry Christmas & Happy New Year. I'll be heading to a computer-free environment down in Kentucky till after New Years, so I'd like to wish y'all seasons greetings now. Sonj, my prayers are with you and Alberr in re yr. job situation....they are saying we are going to see economic problems here in the USA, too... year...I don't know what the new year will bring....alot of uncertainty and change, no doubt. But at least we in Ohio are having a very white Christmas...its' snowed in Kentucky too, this year...snow brightens up this gloomy time.
Jeff <dwellej@aol.com>
Dayton,OH, USA - Thursday, December 21, 2000 at 21:23:42 (GMT)

I guess the real sad thing for me about this is that Kirstys two kids where present when that happened, and that it happened so close to Christmas (and to think she is known for a Christmas tune, too...).
Jeff <dwellej@aol.com>
Dayton, OH, USA - Thursday, December 21, 2000 at 21:16:29 (GMT)

I've just been re-reading the quotes on "Galore", from Bill, Morrissey, Johnny Marr, Shane McGowan and all. Actually David Byrne's is the best, by far, and to which there is no answer: "The voice of an angel, from a mind and heart inflamed by Thatcher's England."
Pete Crook <petecrook@bigfoot.com>
London, England - Thursday, December 21, 2000 at 20:15:47 (GMT)

The centuries have changed little in this art, // The subjects are still the same. // ćFor Christās sake take off your clothes and get into bed, // We are not going to live forever.ä // ćPetals fall from the rose,ä -K. Rexroth excerpted from "August 22, 1939"
derik <non sequitur>
- Thursday, December 21, 2000 at 19:52:23 (GMT)

have just been reading the messages on Kirsty MacColls web-site - lots of beautiful/heartfelt words on there - I wonder if she knew how much she meant to so many people (most of who had never met her) Sonj: I never knew things were that grim - I hope everything pans out right for you - you deserve it
Brian
London, UK - Thursday, December 21, 2000 at 19:40:55 (GMT)

ASDA! If it's anything like the place near us, the customer services announcements were advising the customers to blink and breath once in a while. I'm not saying it's rough, but it has a sign above the door "You are now leaving the gene pool"
Jon
Bristol, UK - Thursday, December 21, 2000 at 18:48:09 (GMT)

Sonj, Mr & Mrs me are keeping our fingers x'd for you. TIP, don't apply for work in a callcenter, they're doing their seasonal sweep in our place at the moment to save a measly handful of pounds on the xmas bonus (which they don't get anyway!) Have a good xmas.
Jon
Bristol, UK - Thursday, December 21, 2000 at 18:46:20 (GMT)

Happy Festival of Lights
Barbara <sonjandalberronlydeservegoodthings>
- Thursday, December 21, 2000 at 17:59:25 (GMT)

the danish of should have been og. (sorry about that)
sonj <boycotting walmart, off to the local co-op>
- Thursday, December 21, 2000 at 17:57:48 (GMT)

pete, i've just spotted the name of your uni! are you posh now:)
sonj
- Thursday, December 21, 2000 at 17:55:52 (GMT)

sonj-i heard about the buy out when i was last in england... year and 1/2 ago?. fuck. i can't believe it went through... actually i'm not surprised. say goodbye to high street. ok, erin, that's a horrible example of globalization. walmarts should never have left bentonville. ahhhhhhhhh well, that ruined my day. boycott sonj... it might be cheaper at walmart... but the price later is unbelievable.
keri
- Thursday, December 21, 2000 at 17:43:56 (GMT)

Hi Carol. thanks for your message of support! It looks as if neither alberr or i will know if we have got a job after January until after christmas. How