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Fuck you, Carsten.
Luther Gaylord
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 23:57:23 (GMT)
I
am hardly a 'liberal' and i do believe that everything you do and everything
you say DOES change the world! Now, I don't think whatever people like LG say
on here has cahnged the world one iota for the better... - No more of this next
year please.
Carsten
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 23:40:09 (GMT)
happy
new year from kev lynn phil aimee and daisy dog.and another aimee who has come
to stay
kevin forster <kevforster@btinternet.com>
worthing, uk - Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 23:31:38 (GMT)
You're
right, Carol, that one protest on inaugeration day will not bring down the reign
of the Bushes. But we need to remind the American people what happened this
past month. I was talking with my family over the holidays, and many of them
said they were happy that this election business was finally at a close; they
were "sick of hearing about it". They didn't think much about the illegal actions
of the Supreme Court, either because they're stupid, or like many people, their
heads were spinning from all the media mess. On January 20th, we need to remind
everyone that this election was stolen, that our constitution was pissed on.
And we need to keep reminding them again and again. With the same fervor that
the moral majority tried to illegitimize Clinton, we need to weaken Bush. I'd
like to say that I'm bigger than they are (the conservative right), but really
I'm not. My boyfriend thinks I'm being ridiculous and says there are much more
effective, more manipulative ways of getting things done than protesting. He's
right, and trust me, I plan to pursue those other means, but right now, I just
want to go to DC and yell.
Jessica Jolly <jessicajolly@lycos.com>
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 21:47:26 (GMT)
Okay,
Carol, let me try a different approach. You love to bang on about how you participated
in this rally or that protest, apparently because you believe that it gives
you "street cred". You mentioned participating in Food Not Bombs and joining
the IWW, though you never went to a single meeting because people smoked there.
I've already articulated my worldview and enumerated some of the activities
in which I engage to try to bring about a stateless, classless society. But
what do *you* do? How long did you participate in Food Not Bombs? Do you still?
If not, why not? What kind of society are you trying to create, and what do
you do on a daily basis to bring it to fruition? Please do tell.
Luther Gaylord
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 21:47:14 (GMT)
Luther,
I did not say that simple acts of kindess will change the world. What I said
was that acts of kindness influence people more than rhetoric. Obviously, liberals
don't try to take over the infrastructure. That is a revolutionary act. And
that's what I did.
Carol
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 21:31:28 (GMT)
Of
course you believe that "simple acts of kindness" will change the world, Carol.
You're a liberal, and that's what liberals believe. In contrast, I believe that
the working class and the employing class have nothing in common. I believe
that there can be no peace so long as hunger and want exist among millions of
working people while the few, who make up the employing class, have all the
good things of life. I believe that the struggle between the haves and the have-nots
must continue until the workers of the world organize as a class, take possession
of the earth and the machinery of production, and abolish the wage system. That's
the difference between you and me.
Luther Gaylord
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 21:16:09 (GMT)
I'm
not being nice to you, Luther. I am disputing everything you say. I am pointing
out that your acts of kindness have consequences far beyond your rhetoric and
nasty comments here on the forum.
Carol
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 21:03:49 (GMT)
Don't
try to be nice to me now, Carol, after two years of hostility. I'm not buying
it.
Luther Gaylord
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 20:45:01 (GMT)
I
want to add to my post below some thoughts on socialism and revolution. First
of all, I want to say that I really admire the things that Luther says he does
as a radical--helping others, particularly cleaning up for the aged and infirm.
I have discovered that these kinds of acts really influence other people far
more than radical rhetoric. I noticed that I got more people to sign union cards
by being a supportive coworker--advising them on their rights as a worker, giving
them the phone numbers of union stewards, or just buying them a drink after
work when the bosses were down on them. All that logical and brilliant talk
seemed to pass them by, but actions like that really mattered to them, and to
others who know they can come to me when necessary. So, Luther, I think you
probably have had greater influence on those in Utah than you realize. Now,
onto the coming revolution. I am not sure it will happen, but with that stolen
election, who knows? I will be in the streets on Jan. 20th, but I doubt if I
will take part in any of the real action like I did ten years ago during the
Persian Gulf War. I learned a lot about myself and about the efficacy of direct
action during that period. In San Francisco, we took over the streets. We closed
down the freeways. We marched all night. I was a grandmother, but I was as active
as I could be. We faced down the cops who were afraid to stop us, and that was
fun! I stood beside an abandoned police car and watched it burn. We marched
all night, and then we surrounded the Federal building and shut it down. I was
arrested along with around 1000 others. It felt like a great success, but I
got sick, and after my fever broke, the streets were again quiet and everybody
went back to work. The war went on. Ultimately, we hadn't stopped anything.
I am not sure when these kinds of actions are really successfully in bringing
governments down, and I sure would like to bring down Bush's illegal reign,
but I doubt if the demos on the 20th will do that. Still, it is important for
the people to be in the streets demonstrating their disgust. In the meantime,
it is also important to do those everyday kinds acts of socialism. Here's to
2001. It might be an interesting year.
Carol
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 20:22:14 (GMT)
Happy
New Year everybody. It's still the morning of December 31 here on the other
side of the pond. Doing a little cleaning for 2001, I came across a tape that
I think Sonja made for me. It is so lovely--Kirsty's father on one side, and
some lovely rock and international revolution on the other. I think she said
that she copied it from a tape that Brian sent her, so thank you, Brian. I particularly
liked the song about going to London to get a job, and if no one will give you
a job, burning the town down. Quite jolly, that one! Happy New Year, one and
all.
Carol <ctarlen@att.net>
San Francisco, - Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 20:06:18 (GMT)
Bit
of a cliche' but Happy New Year to all on the forum ! To Hitlers little elf......love
you xxxx(never mind, keep up the therapy you will soon get better!)
Craig
Hull, - Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 19:47:47 (GMT)
At
the late show last night, Bill did a nice tribute to Kirsty at the end of the
set--talking about working with her, her talent & humour, and giving a charming
review of her latest album. Then he sang the song he wrote and she recorded
for the film "Mad Love" (As Long as You Hold Me) followed by New England w/the
added Kirsty verse. I found it less sad that he had the song books than that
he claimed that he hadn't been using the Burns so much lately b/c it is so much
heavier than the other guitar and hurts his back! He brought someone up on stage
to take a lift of each to prove his point. He went on to play World Turned Upside
Down, St Swithins Day, The Only One, and Jabberwocky on it just the same. Ended
the show with Shirley as a group effort--he didn't think he could hit the high
notes anymore, so the audience was responsible for most of the "Shirley's,"
"summer years," etc. Great show all in all.
Caroline
NYC, USA - Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 19:15:41 (GMT)
Thanks
for that, Jessica. "A New England" is the one song that Braggy has always played,
every gig, as far as I'm aware. It will never be quite the same now, of course.
Kirsty MacColl was utterly brilliant, just in case anyone was in any doubt.
Pete Crook <petecrook@bigfoot.com>
London, England - Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 18:40:23 (GMT)
Long
Island... I'll be the OTHER guy with the English accent... oh and a beer in
me hand!
Mark & Patsy
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 18:20:51 (GMT)
Simon,
this kind of thing goes on in monkseaton?!! Where? Where?!! Hester, how could
i ever forget Geordie Racer? "Howay man spuggie, ah'm gannin doon tae the allotment
tae feed me pigeons stotties and broon ale like"...hehe... Does no-one else
find it slightly depressing that Billy has to read his own songbook on stage?
anyway, happy new year everyone...I'm off to take in the festive cheer on the
wring side of the bar for once :)
pete w <hardcoretim@yahoo.com>
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 18:17:00 (GMT)
Well,
I don't know where you're coming from, Mark and Patsy, but the snow has all
been cleared off the streets in the city. Thanks for the site, Pam.
Jessica Jolly
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 18:05:26 (GMT)
Well
I guess we will have to brave the 12" of snow and make it into the city to see
Billy boy tonight. Do I miss England... not a chance.. I get to see Billy on
New years eve, and I can still have Boddys beer in me fridge.. Hope you all
have a "good one"
Mark & Patsy
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 17:50:33 (GMT)
Keri,
Mary, and Bobby...Enjoy ! My plane ain't gonna get me there on time. So get
there safe and have a great time. Mary, I hope YOU DIDN"T DRIVE up from NC again!
- I hope he plays your song for that...How did the request thing go? Feliz Ano
Nuevo
Paul H <briarpatch@dellnet.com>
Costa Mesa, Estados Unidos - Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 17:12:00 (GMT)
http://www.inaugurauction.org/
Pam
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 17:02:58 (GMT)
Pete:
Yes, the extra verse in New England was the one for Kirsty MacColl. He gave
a whole speech about her life as an artist and what a wonderful friend and mother
she was. And yes, I will give a review of tonight's performance. POLITICS: Can
anyone point me to a website of one of the activist groups that will be protesting
GW Bush's inaugeration? I'm planning on joining the "festivities".
Jessica Jolly <jessicajolly@lycos.com>
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 16:46:20 (GMT)
Keri
- enjoy the gig, and I look forward to your review. Eventually. *grin*
Pete Crook <petecrook@bigfoot.com>
London, England - Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 16:37:23 (GMT)
Dear
Hitler's Little Elf, fancy popping around to mine for some New Year festivities?
The boys and I are going to enjoy a lively discussion about the political positions
and roles of Stalin and Trotsky whilst drinking a gallon or two of herbal tea.
Later on we'll probably end up whipping our crushed velvet loons off and shag
each other rotten. Or will the home not let you out alone? Anyway, Happy New
Year little elf, we don't hate you, we pity you.
Simon
UK - Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 15:55:18 (GMT)
oh
james, bring the missus and your son--it's a family affair. pete, you won't
be without a review... but please allow for the time difference and a mighty
hangover.
keri
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 15:38:44 (GMT)
Dear
Adolf Hitler's Loyal Servant: Give us a kiss..
Aidan
Sheffield , UK - Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 15:30:49 (GMT)
sad
red b******, hippy gay lovers??? Christmas can be too much for some people can't
it? Anyway happy hogmany to on and all x
Jennifer <inherhousebyaroaringfire>
Greenock, Scotland - Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 15:11:48 (GMT)
1.
ever noticed how you seem to seem to get the sort of stuff posted by hitler's
little rentboy during school holidays. 2. ever noticed that the only people
who take hitler seriously are emotionally immature and mentally weak (as he
was). anyways happy new year!
Jon D
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 15:07:45 (GMT)
And
a Happy New Year to all the sad red bastards too!
Jon
Bristol, UK - Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 14:52:30 (GMT)
This
is a good time to wish all my hippy gay lovers a happy new year. smooch!
Barbara
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 14:50:15 (GMT)
So...
is anyone going to write a review of tonight's gig ?
Pete Crook <petecrook@bigfoot.com>
London, England - Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 14:20:27 (GMT)
You
sad red bastards!!all you ever right on here is a load of old shit!!!i want
to take you all and put you up against the wall and shoot the lot of you.all
you aRE IS A BUNCH OF HIPPY GAY LOVERS,ALL GAY PEOPLE SHOULD DIE ALONG WITH
ALL THE OTHER SCUM OF THE EARTH.seeing as this is a free place then i can say
what i like.to hell with the lot of you and the battle between the reds and
the true right will be won by the right and you will all have to take orders
from the great late adolf hitler from the gospel that he left behind!!!HAIL
THE TRUE MASTER AND GOD,HITLER.
adolf hitlers loyal servant <hail
hitler the provider of all things good>
berlin, nazi germany - Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 13:59:32 (GMT)
Keri,
that means my wife gets stuck watching our son and the two dogs by herself.
My have I become so domestic. As this point I have to resort to volunteering
at soup kitchens and staying close to home.
James
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 13:30:56 (GMT)
hey
james, the 20th is a saturday this year--wanna go?
keri
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 13:15:11 (GMT)
well,
well jessica sounds like you had fun last night. i am lovin' the snow. we got
12.5 inches here in brooklyn--i could deal with another 12. so we're on for
this evening. i'll see you at 7.
keri <it'skeriwithoner>
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 13:12:14 (GMT)
Election
Anger Fuels Inaugural Protesters D.C. and U.S. Park Police expect thousands
of protesters like David Barrows who believe the presidential election was "stolen."
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What's Your Opinion? E-Mail This Article Printer-Friendly Version By David Montgomery
and Arthur Santana Washington Post Staff Writers Thursday, December 21, 2000;
Page A10 The raw wounds left by the presidential election finale have created
enough irritation to unleash one of the largest inauguration protests in years,
according to veteran organizers and police officials. "This will be by far the
biggest counter-inauguration since the 1973 Nixon counter-inauguration," predicted
Brian Becker, co-director of the International Action Center in New York, who
has demonstrated at numerous presidential swearing-in events. "We organize protests
not infrequently, and we know when something has legs and when it doesn't have
legs. This one does." At the second inauguration of President Richard M. Nixon,
police estimated there were 25,000 to 100,000 demonstrators, including some
who threw fruit and stones at Nixon's car. The total crowd was about 300,000.
D.C. police are expecting about 750,000 people on Jan. 20 when President-elect
Bush is sworn in, and they said they think many demonstrators will be content
to voice their displeasure peacefully. Becker's group, like several others hoping
to flood parts of the city on Inauguration Day, had been planning to be in Washington
no matter who won the election. But enough people think the outcome was illegitimate,
he said, that it has cranked up protest passion. Within hours of the Dec. 12
U.S. Supreme Court decision blocking Vice President Gore's effort to recount
votes in Florida, Becker and other organizers said, their Web sites were deluged
with inquiries. "There's a tremendous amount of spontaneous organizing going
on," said Becker, 48. A rainbow of left-leaning groups had planned to rally
on the Mall to vent outrage at a variety of demons, including racism, the death
penalty and the corporate influence on politics. But complaints that some Florida
votes were not counted, including those of many African Americans, have given
demonstrators powerful common issues. Unlike the street protests against the
World Bank in April, no civil disobedience has been planned, organizers say.
They said the demonstrations will feature signs, chants, giant puppets, skits
and a squad of radical stilt walkers being trained in Philadelphia. "We are
not planning to shut down the inauguration," Becker said. "We are planning to
make it plain that the inaugural route is not the private property of those
who support the death penalty, so we're going to be well-represented on that
parade route." D.C. police aren't taking any chances with protesters' intentions,
according to Executive Assistant Chief Terrance W. Gainer. He said he expects
fewer than 5,000 unruly demonstrators might try to disrupt the inauguration,
along with thousands of peaceful demonstrators. In addition to the D.C. force,
thousands of suburban and federal officers will participate in what officials
described as an unprecedented level of security. The Justice Action Movement,
an alliance of Washington area protesters, yesterday sent D.C. Police Chief
Charles H. Ramsey a letter requesting a meeting to discuss plans for peaceful
protests. Cmdr. Michael Radzilowski, who is in charge of special operations,
said yesterday that he would be happy to meet with the protesters. Half a dozen
groups have requested permits, but none have been granted. A National Park Service
spokesman said the agency is waiting for inauguration planners to make final
arrangements before it allots space to protesters. The National Organization
for Women plans to be there. "It's important for our own spirit to let people
know there is a place to plug in, take that anger and use it to fuel some additional
activism," NOW President Patricia Ireland said. The Rev. Al Sharpton and the
Rev. Walter Fauntroy plan a "shadow inauguration" outside the U.S. Supreme Court
to swear in those pledging to uphold the Voting Rights Act. "We feel the act
was violated by George Bush," Sharpton said. Fauntroy, pastor of New Bethel
Baptist Church in Shaw, said he has witnessed every swearing-in since President
Franklin D. Roosevelt's fourth in 1945, and "I know of no inauguration that
has been the source of greater controversy than this . . . following a shameful
election." Other activists are planning a Voters March to call for election
reform and the abolishment of the electoral college. "Our nation has been traumatized
by what has happened in this election," said Louis Posner, a New York attorney
leading the effort. Another group, the D.C.-based New Black Panther Party, and
its allies plan to stage a Day of Outrage march, said spokesman Malik Shabazz.
Other local protest efforts are being coordinated by the Justice Action Movement,
a coalition of many who protested the World Bank. They have been holding public
meetings for several weeks at George Washington University. They scheduled a
news conference today to bring together organizers of various protest efforts.
On Monday, several dozen people attended a Justice Action Movement meeting.
Most were students or young members of progressive organizations and unions,
but several were old enough to have protested Nixon's inauguration. Justice
Action Movement has dubbed Jan. 20 the "InaugurAuction," a reference to members'
belief that the major parties buy the White House with corporate funds. "Because
of a corrupt political system, we now have a president who is going to be threatening
the lives of many innocent people because of his support for the death penalty,
military policies abroad and free trade," said Adam Eidinger, 27, a movement
organizer. At the meeting, the group voted not to use violence, vandalism, weapons,
alcohol or drugs. They also decided to remain in small groups scattered all
over the Mall, employing creative visual effects and stilt walkers to make their
points. After the meeting, several organizers said they suspected a police infiltrator
was in their midst. A man with a goatee looked just like a plainclothes officer
who figured prominently in confrontations with World Bank demonstrators, according
to organizers who said they have videotapes. Before ending a brief telephone
interview with The Washington Post, the man denied he was an undercover officer.
A police spokesman said there is no one on the force with the name the man used
at the meeting. Gainer confirmed that the police have infiltrated the protesters,
but he didn't identify anyone. "They're looking for excuses to shut us down,"
Eidinger said. This week, a few members of Justice Action Movement held a practice
InaugurAuction in front of the White House, offering to auction the building
for $10 to carpenters building bleachers for the parade. "I don't feel this
particular election demonstrates ideally what the presidency is for this country,"
said Elizabeth Croyden, 30, an actress and film producer who participated. "It
exposes a lot of flaws in the system, and I'm upset about it. If you don't get
involved, how can you make a difference?" © 2000 The Washington Post Company
James <summerfallwinterspring98@juno.com>
Bush League but angry - Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 13:10:16 (GMT)
why
dont you all get a life and follow the master race!!!the red scum are a thing
of the past and its the right that will win. i want to hang all the red arse
badits from a tree and watch them all die slowly and with lots of pain!!!!
i hate the left wing cunts <better
dead than red>
berlin, nazi germany - Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 12:44:40 (GMT)
Except
Luther's post was a genuine question. He could make no sense of the post and
was asking for clarification. As usual your hate for him colored your interpretation
of what he as doing. Why are you guys such reactionaries?
Pam <raverp@hotmail.com>
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 12:43:44 (GMT)
And,
yes, I (and more than a few of the old-timers here I'm sure) can vouch for the
fact that Bill does indeed need his own songbooks on stage when he plays all-too-rare
solo gigs these days...
Pete Crook
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 10:48:15 (GMT)
Thanks
for the feedback on the New York gig, folks. Very pleased for you, Jessica !
Can I assume from Jonathanās post that Bill included the ćextra verseä (written
for Kirsty MacColl) in ćA New Englandä ? That would be completely unique as
far as I am aware (but Iām open to contradiction·), and must have been included
as a tribute to her. And Iād like to hear about what Bill said about Kirsty:
anyone ?
Pete Crook <petecrook@bigfoot.com>
London, England - Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 10:40:58 (GMT)
The
Grammer Police are the skinheads of this guestbook....(:)..Thanks for the call
today Laura..
steve <Arsenal
2 v 2 Sunderland.cracking result eh Theo??>
brisbane / sunderland...this year dublin and lisbon, USA - Sunday, December
31, 2000 at 06:20:16 (GMT)
when
parking and cold weather stops people going to gigs thats the time to call it
a day
steve
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 06:17:53 (GMT)
working
class patriot..oh! the British Independance party...I forgot about them?...how
could I.....wanker
steve
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 06:17:00 (GMT)
In
Newcastle they are called stotties in sunderland flat cakes (10miles apart)
steve
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 06:15:18 (GMT)
opps..stottie
cake
steve
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 06:14:25 (GMT)
Sottie
Cake or also know as Flat cake...it does have yeast just like ordinary bread,
except the dough has slightly more water than normal...once the dough has risen
and been knocked back, hand ball them until round and about 8 ounces in weight...leave
to stand for 30 minutes then roll out round plate size 12in dia....leave to
rise for 40 mins put in very hot oven and half way through baking turn over...12
mins baking time in total....when cooled slice and eat with roasted ham and
pease pudding...or dip in yer soup bonny lad
steve <made it 1000s of times>
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 06:13:59 (GMT)
I
was at the early show at the Bottom Line, too. Any body know the words in the
verse in 'New England' about waiting for a call, which ends "when at last it
didn't ring, I knew it wasn't you" ? My compliments to the page turner.
Jonathan <j238@yahoo.com>
NY, USA - Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 04:14:52 (GMT)
Happy
New Year to all guestbookers (even Theo) and their families...
Kim <grrrl@community.hipmama.com>
Indiana, USA - Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 04:08:20 (GMT)
I
just got back from the first Billy show at the Bottom Line. He was fabulous,
doing a solo show which is the only kind of show he should do. And best of all
I WAS ON STAGE WITH BILLY BRAGG! That's right, he asked me on stage to turn
the page for him (yes, he was reading his own songbook) during "Must I Paint
You A Picture", one of my favourites. Of course, I forgot to bring a camera.
If anyone on this board was at the show and got a shot of Billy and his page
turner, could you scan and send me a copy? Can't wait to see him again tomorrow
night with Kerri. Oh, and Kerri, don't you love all this snow?
Jessica <jessicajolly@lycos.com>
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 03:55:03 (GMT)
STEVE
- GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT. I SUPPORT THE UK INDEPENDENCE PARTY. *NOT* THE BNP!!!!!!
A WORKING CLASS BRITISH PATRIOT
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 03:18:52 (GMT)
My
Geordie mother-in-law makes 'stottie cakes'. It is un-leaven bread - bread made
in the usual fashion, except not left to rise a second time. Hot from the oven
it is delicious.
Amanda
Adelaide, South Oz - Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 03:03:37 (GMT)
JON
- THIS MAY SURPRISE YOU, BUT SOME WORKING CLASS PEOPLE *DO* MAKE IT TO UNIVERSITY!!!!!
A WORKING CLASS BRITISH PATRIOT
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 03:02:15 (GMT)
could
someone educate me, and tell me what 'stotties' are? (i seem to remember an
episode of 'jordy racer' mentioning them... anyone remember that?).
hester
- Sunday, December 31, 2000 at 02:01:44 (GMT)
Poliltics:
Yes, John Ashcroft is the token "religous right" Christian conservative. A real
right-wing wingnut. Suprised that Bush picked him as the rest of his cabinet
picks seem fairly sane.
Jeff <dwellej@aol.com>
Dayton, OH, USA - Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 23:08:20 (GMT)
Well,
happy New Years from Ohio! It looks like there has been some snow up here! But
not much compared to what the East Coast is getting. Sonj, looks like yr local
cybercafe is a clean, well-lighted place for websurfing. Interestingly enough
I got a Christmas present of a book of areal photos of London and the Thames
valley (with text by Alestair Cook). Now I see what alot of London looks like
(at least from the air).
Jeff <dwellej@aol.com>
Dayton, OH, USA - Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 23:04:47 (GMT)
well,
it's absolutly beautiful here in brooklyn with about 10" of snow. i'm kind of
technically snowed in from the pub or perhaps resting up for tomorrow night.
CAROL- how about these two words--john ashcroft?? if he turns out to get the
attorney general post then i am running away to london to get married. he is
a scary, scary man. CARSTEN- to have the grammar police relax and take a break
would be an ideal new year's resolution--what do you say luther? happy new year
all...hope 2001 is happy and healthy for everyone.
keri <thanks for sending
the snow barbara!>
- Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 22:44:54 (GMT)
I
see the gramar and punctuation police are out policing the web site. these people
must lead such wonderful fufilling lives that they have so much time to engage
in monitoring gramaticial errors
XXXXXXXX <get a life>
USA - Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 19:15:08 (GMT)
Sonj
and Alberr, Happy New Year and thanks eternally for your lovely support. love
from the Ingalls
The Ingalls
- Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 19:01:45 (GMT)
An
alternative for all you lucky New Yorkers if you can't make / afford Braggy's
gig. GO SEE BLACK 47. "Sunday 31st Connolly's, 14 E. 47th St. (212)867-3767.
Tickets are $15 and are on sale at Connolly's Bar. If you can't get tickets,
just show up early. We will go onstage at 11pm or thereabouts."
Pete Crook
- Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 18:54:40 (GMT)
Oh
shit, smartarse strikes again. Any chance we can leave these juvenile postings
behind us in the new year?
Carsten
- Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 18:31:57 (GMT)
If
it's not estimated that over 500,000 are expected to crash the inauguration,
James, how many *are* expected?
Luther Gaylord
- Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 18:20:40 (GMT)
It
is not estimated that over 500,000 are expected to be in DC to rain (rein) hell
on Debuya's Inaugural Ball. Robin, the only icecream shop we have over here
is "Cookies-N-Cream". Most of the locals go to the Stewart's Shops (kind of
like the Wah-Wah in NJ and Penn. Half the price.
James <summerfallwinterspring98@juno.com>
New Paltz, - Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 17:32:37 (GMT)
I'm
now very glad I didn't make plans to see BB on New Year's Eve. There will be
no parking there with all this snow! That area can also get damned cold (not
that this one isn't right now). Is Amy's Ice Cream shop still near there? I
haven't been to that section of the island in a while.
Red Robin
- Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 15:23:17 (GMT)
...
happy new year james. usual appliance probs, got to argos with another useless
toaster but had left receipt in the car. However new multi cooker is brill and
alberr is busy decorating the office after being served perfectly cooked eggs
and bacon. Bacon not as good as scaifes (james) but at least i had something
to cook it on this time carol!!! Siobhan, reminds me of our epic journey to
your place via kent when we stopped to cook eggs and bacon and black pudding
before we left having raced across country to find a cooker that worked. Will
be up in essex tomorrow for the new year festivities.
sonj <braggpuss@hotmail
still working when i can get to it>
- Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 14:34:10 (GMT)
Happy
New Year Everyone: I hope Billy doesn't get snowed-in NYC . We already have
6" in the valley with another 12" expected by tommorow.
James <summerfallwinterspring98@juno.com>
New Paltz, Bush League - Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 13:56:44 (GMT)
if
i can tear alberr away from the old films channel on the cable tv i wil try
and send out some new year tv-e-mail greetings tonight. Hope you all have a
lovely one
sonj <ian's barbers
cyber cafe in hampshire>
- Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 13:31:33 (GMT)
just
passing the cybercafe. you can see where i am if you look at http://www.coffeecom.net/
sonj
- Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 13:29:24 (GMT)
A
working class british patriot who 'attends' Oxford Brookes University? Doesn't
look to bloody working class to me.
Jon
Bristol, UK - Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 12:15:10 (GMT)
talking
about wanking a mate if mine had 8 in one day...I found a good therapist for
him though...so we have a BNP member here or a silly turd playing games, either
way go boil your head cretin
steve
- Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 11:05:11 (GMT)
CAROL
- I DESPISE THATCHER. SHE ALLOWED YET MORE IMMIGRANTS TO SETTLE HERE; SIGNED
THE ANGLO-IRISH AGREEMENT; AND TOOK US FURTHER INTO EUROPE!!!!!
A WORKING-CLASS BRITISH PATRIOT
- Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 02:11:22 (GMT)
How
does a working class British patriot wank, anyway? Does he/she use props? Do
they fantasize Thatcher's boobs and wipe up with the union jack? Just curious.
Carol
- Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 01:22:21 (GMT)
Here's
a sour note to add to all this music chat: Have you Europeans been paying attention
to our Prez Elect Bush's cabinet appointments? Besides dredging up every Republican
still alive who were part of Nixon's, Ford's, Reagan's, and especially papa's
administrations, he is appointing all these "social conservatives." Women of
America, be afraid, be very afraid. And get this, he wants to reinstate star
wars--never worked then and doesn't work now. A billion dollar boondoggle to
make his friends in the defense industry happy and rich. And he will start oil
drilling in Alaska. Enviornmentalists, be afraid. Be very afraid. I imagine
the Democrats will help him pass tax cuts, too. The American people didn't vote
this in. But our Demo and Republican representatives will ram it down our throats
anyway.
Carol <ctarlen@att.net>
San Francisco, - Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 01:19:12 (GMT)
BILLY
BRAGG IS A WANKER!!!!!
A WORKING-CLASS BRITISH PATRIOT
- Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 01:15:11 (GMT)
And
then buy the album! There's not enough millionaire socailist folkie protest
singer types in this world. Shit, why is it always down to Bill?
Jon
Bristol, UK - Saturday, December 30, 2000 at 00:46:36 (GMT)
Sorry,
forgot my email address.
Carsten <notonato@hotmail.com>
- Friday, December 29, 2000 at 23:24:55 (GMT)
Hmmm,
don't know who spat on your cornflakes this morning... All I was saying was
the website you suggest is not very useful to Europeans as each of the songs
takes over an hour and a half to download. Things can be arranged for people
in Europe in a much less painful fashion. Got it? -Cheers!
Carsten <ifyoureinterestedindickgaughandropmealine>
- Friday, December 29, 2000 at 23:23:08 (GMT)
Carsten,
that was for everyone. I felt magnanimous, okay? Geesh, give me a break.
Pam <raverp@hotmail.com>
- Friday, December 29, 2000 at 23:09:28 (GMT)
Hmmm,
strange suggestion to someone sitting in an internet cafe... No need to do anything
about Dick Gaughan, Sonj. other than confirm your new address. I wouldn't be
at all surprised now if things might just be arranged for you...
Carsten
- Friday, December 29, 2000 at 23:06:42 (GMT)
You
can sample some Dick Gaughan songs (thanks to Mean Evil Luther) at the Radical
Music Archive. http://hillstrom.iww.org/music/
Pam <raverp@hotmail.com>
- Friday, December 29, 2000 at 22:51:40 (GMT)
Sonj,
buy the album! It has a version of The World Turned Upside Down on it.
Jon
Bristol, UK - Friday, December 29, 2000 at 21:25:58 (GMT)
A
final reminder that all entries must be in this weekend (before midnight GMT
on 31st December) for the Annual Quiz. Just head along to : http://www.webone.com.au/~bragg
- Braggtopia! - The Ultimate Billy Bragg Website
Mark Warner <bragg@webone.com.au>
Braggtopia!, - Friday, December 29, 2000 at 21:07:55 (GMT)
thanks
Dick! I will buy it next time i am in MVC if the plastic still works. btw i
have found the song i am looking for..Kirsty Maccoll - Walking Down Madison
Single 1991 Virgin SCDG 1348 Track: Darling Let's Have Another Baby - duet with
Kirsty Maccoll .....Have been humming it for days.
sonj
- Friday, December 29, 2000 at 17:20:41 (GMT)
The
name of that album is HANDFUL OF EARTH.
Dick Gaughan
- Friday, December 29, 2000 at 17:16:31 (GMT)
OK,
somebody tell me where the Kirsty and Billy song about making babies comes from??
I have mislaid (temporarily i hope!!) the cd that Brian made for my which it
was on. Better go and help alberr with getting the 'new' office ready ....
sonj
- Friday, December 29, 2000 at 17:16:13 (GMT)
the
name of the album that is.... Good news, alberr is getting a room ready in the
new place to put the kit in so we should be on lin@home soon!! Tettland ans
Ian, i promise the photos will materialise soon!!
sonj
- Friday, December 29, 2000 at 16:51:12 (GMT)
Carsten,
he was standing in a field by a power station but i can't remember the name
of it.
sonj
- Friday, December 29, 2000 at 16:47:31 (GMT)
Hi
Sonj. Great to hear from you. Which Dick Gaughan album did you have in mind?
Carsten
- Friday, December 29, 2000 at 13:37:41 (GMT)
happy
new year everybody
love sonj et al
- Friday, December 29, 2000 at 12:10:36 (GMT)
just
to update you all on the appliance front ... two new toasters have been returned
to the shop... humane mousetrap has totally disappeared along with two layers
of posh chocolates from unopened box along with a packet of indigestion tablets.
Presumably supermouse came to the rescue and they decided to have a party and
play tricks.
sonj <thinking of getting a cat>
- Friday, December 29, 2000 at 12:06:34 (GMT)
steve,
alberr and i had a splurge in the CD shop yesterday ( last ditch before unemployment
bites) 'fraid i left dick gaughan on the shelf 'til next time but got some great
old oysterband stuff with reference to gigging with bill.
sonj
- Friday, December 29, 2000 at 12:01:07 (GMT)
Hi
Carol, we are alive and well! Hope you are much better. Did Kate like the bag?
I am in a cybercafe right now.
sonja
- Friday, December 29, 2000 at 11:54:00 (GMT)
And
before you ask, I mean the threat of violence to a perfectly rational statement.
Weevil
UK - Friday, December 29, 2000 at 10:05:14 (GMT)
The
response from Northern Teen is exactly what I would have expected. True colours
and all that...
Weevil
UK, - Friday, December 29, 2000 at 09:57:57 (GMT)
I
agree scooter...Cheer up Peter Reid, we know what it means to be top of the
League.....C/mon you reds, let's take 3 points off the gooners this week...My
mate Julian the spurs fan has gone a bit quiet...
steve
- Friday, December 29, 2000 at 08:11:37 (GMT)
If
Spurs win at Wembley in May I'll be a · The final is in Cardiff! Still it's
a good year for Spurs when the year ends in 1, We first won the cup when the
·I can't tell you how bad they were last night!!
Dickie <Simplyhavingawonderfulchristmastime>
(Not) Billericay, UK - Thursday, December 28, 2000 at 23:44:15 (GMT)
Buy
Bobby a watery wee for me, Willy.
Barbara
- Thursday, December 28, 2000 at 23:18:46 (GMT)
It's
snowing on Teesside! Woo hoo. And Weevil, who the hell are you? Cheer up you
miserbale b@stard, before I slap a smile onto your face. On a lighter note,
I've just discovered a cluster of new songs on Napster by The Clash...early
B-sides/singles "1977" "Deny" "Listen"...so 'punk' it's unbelievable.
Northern Teen <teessiders@lycos.com>
- Thursday, December 28, 2000 at 21:32:18 (GMT)
Bragg
and company arrive in the states today.
.
- Thursday, December 28, 2000 at 20:28:21 (GMT)
Bragg
and company arrive on our shores today.
.
- Thursday, December 28, 2000 at 20:27:30 (GMT)
Hey
Sonja: I haven't heard from you in awhile. I hope all is well. Happy 2001 everyone.
Carol Tarlen <ctarlen@att.net>
San Francisco, - Thursday, December 28, 2000 at 20:09:30 (GMT)
steve;
I don't think you understand what I mean. I'm referring to the blinkered population
of the US who don't realise that there is a world outside their shores. The
unbridled nationalism of a country where only 45% of the population own passports,
where I get the serious comments, "you speak good English", "Do you celebrate
Easter in Australia?", and so on. The American population is generally kept
stupid by its media. The government here likes to keep it's general population
here stupid and naive. It's just so much easier to control. There's nothing
wrong with questioning authority, although here you wouldn't believe that.
scooter
Baltimore now, Formerly Australia - Thursday, December 28, 2000 at 18:31:57
(GMT)
M'bro
dynamite? What a load of utter shite. Please keep your idiotic rantings to yourself.
Weevil
UK, - Thursday, December 28, 2000 at 16:05:42 (GMT)
Keri
is klarly suverink vrom sewere sexual vrustration - und probably fancies her
vather azvell
Sigmund Fraud
- Thursday, December 28, 2000 at 15:42:44 (GMT)
actually
i think it has a lot to do with my sleeping on the couch for the last few days.
oh my aching back. but anyway, the last dream was a screaming match at the show
cause he wouldn't sing auld lang syne. any interpretations on that?
keri
new york, - Thursday, December 28, 2000 at 15:01:59 (GMT)
excellent
blues web site....http://www.redlickrecords.com.....and online music and film
fair at...www.vip-24.com
steve <having a play>
- Thursday, December 28, 2000 at 11:12:18 (GMT)
a
report from my sister who said she thought Billy and the blokes were brilliant
(and funny) in Bristol recently(Ive just spoke to her)
steve
- Thursday, December 28, 2000 at 10:38:12 (GMT)
Derek
and any other folk fans, there is a great Bert Jansch Double CD just out called
Dazzling Stranger, its a 44 track (various label) anthology covering 1965-2000
and only 12.99 (pounds)...Track Records in York England have it and they will
send anywhere world wide....Tel is 01904 629022 and fax 01904 610637...e-mail
trackyork.fsnet.co.uk...dont expect any power in the union type stuff, but a
classic guitarist and influential folk icon.
steve <johnquays@optusnet.com.au>
- Thursday, December 28, 2000 at 10:36:12 (GMT)
It's
snowed in Bristol overnight, and I've woken up with a cold! That's the last
time I post pseudo medical advice on a message board or email group!
Jon
Bristol, UK - Thursday, December 28, 2000 at 08:18:13 (GMT)
- Thursday, December 28, 2000 at 05:18:31 (GMT)
Arbara:
it's OK. People lose Mariel's M all the time. She actually doesn't mind having
a name so similar to that of "The Little Mermaid." It was her favorite movie
as a baby.
Red Robin
- Thursday, December 28, 2000 at 04:46:49 (GMT)
My
my, I wonder who the intelligent, handsome young whipper-snapper was who left
that last message. Nice one, mate.
Northern Teen <teessiders@lycos.com>
- Thursday, December 28, 2000 at 02:36:46 (GMT)
OOOOOOOOOOH,
his name is TERRY VENABLES, he wears a magic hat, and when HE SAW THE BORO,
he said I FANCY THAT!! He could have signed for Leeds, or Sunderland but THEY'RE
SH*TE, so he said I'll sign for BORO 'COS THEY'RE F***ING DYNAMITE
Guess Who??
- Thursday, December 28, 2000 at 02:34:00 (GMT)
Wow,
didn't know that Maya Angelou wrote a poem for L.G.! I thought it was about
conquering racism and glorying in powerful black success! Carsten, I'm sorry
I never mentioned Ben Harper here... He's great but still trying to get into
his latest. Have had it for a while, only listened to it twice. Was gonna trade
it in but am now giving it a second chance. Has anyone seen him in concert lately?
What are the "innocent criminals" like? Saw him first with some great percussionists
(1996?) and then the next show I saw was rather drab without them... On another
note, finally got my copy of "suitable for miners" back after a year long loan
to a stranger ("don't lend your friends books out to other people!" says this
librarian!) Will be fun to read it again!
Susan <but still like dust I
rise>
- Thursday, December 28, 2000 at 02:05:49 (GMT)
Channel
4 are showing "The Harry Hil Xmas Special" tonight - does anyone know is this
is the one with Billy on?
Brian
London, UK - Wednesday, December 27, 2000 at 23:48:18 (GMT)
Does
my happiness upset you? Why are you best with gloom? Cause I laugh like I've
got an oil well pumpin' in my living room.
Barbara <yesyou'rerightCarsten>
itwaswrittenjustforLuther, - Wednesday, December 27, 2000 at 21:31:07 (GMT)
Becareful
going out in the snow Carsten, you don't catch a chill. There's been no snow
in Bristol, the only white I've seen is vague traces under the veigns in my
eyes. Off to put another christian on the fire...
Jon
Bristol, UK - Wednesday, December 27, 2000 at 21:16:49 (GMT)
Alright
Barbara, you can stop swearing - I must have missed it. Anyway, don't you think
one of the tracks on "Welcome To The Cruel World" sounds like it was written
for L.G.? --- Keri, I used to take that stuff that sees you thru Xmas as well
:). Belfast is completely snowed under! I almost pity all the good Christians
who didn't get a "White Christmas" :)
Carsten <justafterthebestsnowfightinyears>
- Wednesday, December 27, 2000 at 19:04:57 (GMT)
Tell
us your dreams Keri. We won't laugh. Really.
Barbara
- Wednesday, December 27, 2000 at 17:56:58 (GMT)
Robin,
apologize to Mariel for me for losing her M.
Arbara
- Wednesday, December 27, 2000 at 16:14:34 (GMT)
i've
been having bizarre dreams.
keri
- Wednesday, December 27, 2000 at 13:17:55 (GMT)
Respect
to Sunderland for what they are achieving now, and also to Middlesbrough for
getting in the greatest coach in football, even if his tactics did completely
stifle the game at White Hart Lane last Saturday...
Pete Crook (southern 40-something)
London, England - Wednesday, December 27, 2000 at 09:06:55 (GMT)
A
belated Happy Christmas, a still timely happy Hanukkah, and a very merry New
Year to all, especially the Red Strumpets. Mariel says hello to Barbara, Bob
I. and James. It is now after 3 a.m. here, so I guess I am having an insomniac
attack, after doing a rewrite on my play. One more song to write and a little
tweaking of some of the scenes, and I hope to be done - perhaps this week. Now
if only I could find that %^#&^% music tape...
Red Robin
- Wednesday, December 27, 2000 at 08:17:28 (GMT)
Carsten
I swear we've talked about Ben Harper on this page before but better late then
never. You're right he's amazing.
Barbara <willtoliveisinconstantrotation@home>
- Wednesday, December 27, 2000 at 06:33:33 (GMT)
Sunderland
won't last the season. I mean, with just ONE arguably class player [Phillips]
in a team of eleven? Won't belong before the rest of those claggers run out
of steam and not win for about nine games. Jealous? Me? Of course not!
Northern Teen <teessiders@lycos.com>
Stockton-on-Tees, I Hate Niall Quinn - Wednesday, December 27, 2000 at 02:46:33
(GMT)
new
years 2000 or 2001.... who cares... it's new years eve with billy--that's what
matters.
keri
- Wednesday, December 27, 2000 at 00:09:02 (GMT)
Is
it New Years Eve 2000 or is it New Years Eve 2001? Discuss.
.
- Tuesday, December 26, 2000 at 23:50:20 (GMT)
Happy
Boxing Day everyone!
murphy <yeehaw@cowboy.com>
Austin, TX - Tuesday, December 26, 2000 at 22:53:06 (GMT)
Does
anyone know BEN HARPER and if yes, why did you ba***rd never share your secret
knowledge with us??? :) - Just discovering his musique extraordinaire via napster...
Carsten
- Tuesday, December 26, 2000 at 21:27:16 (GMT)
bradford
1 v 4 sunderland.....3rd...nuff said..enjoying those opiates
steve
- Tuesday, December 26, 2000 at 20:11:16 (GMT)
1901,
1921, 1951, 1961, 1971, 1981, 1991... er ??
Pete
- Tuesday, December 26, 2000 at 19:23:42 (GMT)
Totteham
are going to win at Wembley next May. Hey, it's 2001.
Pete Crook
- Tuesday, December 26, 2000 at 19:18:07 (GMT)
On
the greatest song lyric ever Grauniad debate that I mentioned earlier, there's
been even more braggy input. And checking the papers front (web) page, looks
like 2001's gonna be a bundle of fun, in a bombs, jihads, and general death
collecting! BTW the partnership of MacGowan/Finer (Pogues) must rank amongst
one of the greatest songwriting duo's IMO
Jon
Bristol, UK - Tuesday, December 26, 2000 at 14:34:21 (GMT)
whats
the matter Luther, are you in need of a fight....plenty of mailing lists for
you to blast off at
steve
- Tuesday, December 26, 2000 at 11:03:19 (GMT)
good
old omniscient www.Gaylord.god.com seems to be working under the assumption
that he knows who does and doesn't read this guestbook...please masterful one
pass on next weekends lottery numbers.
steve
- Tuesday, December 26, 2000 at 11:01:05 (GMT)
Hello
All! Merry Christmas! DOes anyone know any good RObbie WIlliams Site? I am looking
for the site wioth the nude pics! Thank you!
Greg <ogunquit@cuba.com>
Ogunquit, Maine, USA - Tuesday, December 26, 2000 at 02:08:14 (GMT)
Steve
Hossack seems to be operating under the mistaken assumptions that (1) Shane
MacGowan can read and (2) he reads Billy Bragg's website guestbook.
Luther Gaylord
- Tuesday, December 26, 2000 at 01:53:53 (GMT)
Shane
MacGowan, Happy Birthday, stay alive for fucks sake will you, Piss off the hangers-on
and the wasters that surround you, listen to Sinead Shane and consider how your
loved ones will feel if you snuff it..love steve
steve <johnquays@optusnet.conm.au>
- Tuesday, December 26, 2000 at 01:19:48 (GMT)
That
Billy fan fiction site is back up. Evidently she moved the links or something.
The old pages now link up to the new ones: http://ejadler.tripod.com/bragg.html
Lindsey Leary <lindseydj@europe.com>
Baltimore, USA - Tuesday, December 26, 2000 at 00:41:59 (GMT)
MERRY
CHRISTMAS everyone, yet again....I'm eating ham and pease pudding stotties and
drinking vast amounts of christmas beer and smoking vast amounts of christmas
tabs. Usually the festive season is really depressing but today, it's ok so
far :)
pete w <hardcoretim@yahoo.com>
- Monday, December 25, 2000 at 13:57:49 (GMT)
...but
I'll take the cheesecake, Steve...
Pete
- Monday, December 25, 2000 at 11:54:35 (GMT)
Kirsty's
music is ringing around our house on Christmas Day.
Pete Crook
- Monday, December 25, 2000 at 11:47:46 (GMT)
Indonesia
is also quite highly populated by Hindu's, and while we were on holiday there
(Bali) we were told of quite violent clashes between Hindu's and 'Christians
/ Catholics' (mostly tourists) and muslims. This was just after the election
where, even though the Muslim representative failed to score hardly any votes,
as they are in a 5% minority, they still managed to elect a Muslim prime minister.
Jon
Somewhere, UK - Monday, December 25, 2000 at 08:27:02 (GMT)
Pete,
only if you join me for some mandarin cheesecake , Im just making some iced
fresh fruit puree to pour over
steve
- Monday, December 25, 2000 at 07:48:22 (GMT)
Shit,
the kids just woke me up. What day is it, anyway ..? Oh, yeah. Anyone want to
come round for black olive and red wine pate, mushroom brioche, cashew nut sauce
and paprika rice later ?
Pete Crook
- Monday, December 25, 2000 at 06:33:43 (GMT)
"Who
in the hell d'you think you are, A super star? Well, right you are. Well we
all shine on, Like the moon and the stars and the sun. Yeah we all shine on
On and on and on on and on." Peace.
Carol
ctarlen@att.net, - Monday, December 25, 2000 at 04:14:08 (GMT)
some
articles from the post carsten sent below...WHAT NICE CIVILISED PEOPLE HUMANS
ARE, HYPOCRITES ON MOST LEVELS...." At least 10 people have died and dozens
left injured in a wave of synchronised bomb attacks across Indonesia, targeting
Christian worshippers at Christmas Eve services. ...the simultaneous timing
of so many blasts is bound to throw suspicion on elements of the military. ......Christians
make up less than 5% of the population of Indonesia - the world's most populous
Muslim state. Christmas celebrations are coinciding this year with the final
days of Islam's holy month of Ramadan, which ends on Tuesday night. Religious
tensions Over the past two years, escalating clashes between Christians and
Muslims in Indonesia have claimed thousands of lives. Religious tensions have
risen in recent months throughout the Indonesian archipelago. The most serious
trouble has been in the Moluccan islands in Indonesia's east, where an estimated
5,000 people of both faiths have been killed in two years of sectarian violence.
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of the page.
Steve <the
xmas disco version of Fog On The Tyne was good?????.>
bet you never heard that one PeteC, - Monday, December 25, 2000 at 01:35:58
(GMT)
Happy
[insert whatever here] to all... Here's my non denominational poem by Paul Eluard,
French poet,: "Worker" // Seeing timber in the trees // Roads into the mountains
// In the days of youth, days of strength // Bending iron and shaping stone
// adorning nature // Nature without her dress // I work.
derik
- Monday, December 25, 2000 at 00:25:51 (GMT)
happy
christmas-i love you baby.speak to you all later
kev <kevforster@btinternet.com>
worthing, uk - Monday, December 25, 2000 at 00:05:49 (GMT)
Hi
Carsten: I know you don't celebrate Christmas, but that doesn't mean I can't
have your wee ones in my thoughts. How's Belfast? I really liked the city when
I visited there. A lovely place with lovely people.
Carol
- Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 23:32:10 (GMT)
hi
brian.. how is the little one taking all the excitment?
keri
- Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 23:29:21 (GMT)
hi
brian.. how is the little one taking all the excitment?
keri
- Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 23:29:16 (GMT)
best
xmas OFAH: A Royal Flush - when del pulls out the sawn-off pump action shotgun
at the clay-pigeon shoot is fantastic
Brian
London, UK - Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 23:16:04 (GMT)
nobody
mentioned Christmas in Hollis by Run DMC - oh yeah - cos its rubbish
Brian
London, UK - Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 23:12:58 (GMT)
Thanks
very much, Carol. Ciann & Niamh don't celebrate Christmas (they'll get their
pressies on New Year's Day) but we all still wish you a great winter holiday!
--- Steve, ye ol' fruit cake, now you're really exaggerating: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/asia-pacific/newsid_1086000/1086275.stm
Carsten
- Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 22:32:37 (GMT)
My
three favorite Christmas songs have already been mentioned: Fairy Tale of New
York, Merry Christams (baby please come home) and of course, Lennon's Happy
Chirstmas, War is Over. Siobhan, Theo, Carsten and Rob, please give your respective
little ones Christmas hugs from me. Here's to all the lovely children I met
in England and Ireland: Cianan, Jack, Ruby, Tillie, Chloe--you are all in my
thoughts this Christas Eve.
Carol <ctarlen@att.net>
- Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 21:52:22 (GMT)
I
dedicate today to Kirsty MacColl..and the following lines from Fairy Tale of
New York, apply them where they fit...."You took my dreams, from me when I first
found you, I kept them with me babe, I put them with my own, Can't make it alone,
I've built my dreams around you"
Steve <johnquays@optusnet.com.au>
Merry Xmas Bill and family, Corrina and Toby, - Sunday, December 24, 2000 at
21:34:49 (GMT)
IITTTSS
XXXXXXMMMMMMMAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSS
steve
- Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 21:28:10 (GMT)
John
Lennon's..Happy Xmas (war is over) is my fave xmas record
steve
- Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 21:27:32 (GMT)
Best
Christmas Song: Merry Christmas (Baby please come home) by Darlene Love. And
love to all of you.
Barbara
- Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 20:59:24 (GMT)
How
lucky were Middlesbrough to get away from Tottenham with a point ? OK, it's
Christmas.
Pete Crook <petecrook@bigfoot.com>
London, England - Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 20:47:59 (GMT)
If
i put forward Mogwai's "Christmas Steps" as the best christmas tune ever, will
i be laughed at? Nah fuck it, the best christmas song ever is undoubtedly the
Fairytale of New York :) Happy festivities folks!
pete w <aaaaargh>
- Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 20:17:49 (GMT)
A
Merry Christmas to all, hope you have an excellent Christmas and Merry New Year!
Peace and Love to ALL Regards Craig.. Hull UK
Craig
Hull, - Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 20:16:33 (GMT)
happy
christmas gang! i hope everyone enjoys a peaceful holiday season with friends
and family. just 7 days until my present to myself. ERIN: don't work too hard...
keri
nowhere, ny , again!!! - Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 17:37:22 (GMT)
Quiet
here today, ah well. Merry Xmas all, and to echo Northern Teen. Best Christmas
Song Fairytale of New York, closely followed by The Ramones Merry Christmas,
Best Christmas film / program is tied by Bert Raccoon's Christmas and Charlie
Brown's Christmas, unless there's a Simpsons Christmas.
Jon
Bristol, UK - Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 16:54:08 (GMT)
Merry
Christmas everybody! (Even those Sunderland and Spurs supporters out there!)
Best Christmas Song: that one by Mike Oldfield Best Christmas Film: "Muppet's
Christmas Carol" - superb. Best Christmas Only Fools&Horses: the one with Peckham
Spring Water
Northern Teen <teessiders@lycos.com>
- Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 15:28:19 (GMT)
good
result today dyl...a goal in the last 5 minutes for northampton, have amerry
holiday
steve
- Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 13:03:25 (GMT)
Happy
Christmas to all on the guestbook. If you don't celebrate Christmas then I wish
you peace and happiness!
Dyl
- Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 12:45:41 (GMT)
xmas
eve...and Ive just got back from church..hahahaha..(joke)...been up to a nearby
mountain, star watching and saw two shooting stars??..eeekkk...just fancied
some good old fashioned xmas music in front of my air conditoning unit and blowing
fan as its 38c...so I put on The Mighty Fall's 'Live at the Witch Trials'.I'd
forgot how good it was..now for a little gentle Grotesque from The Fall..I bought
some appalachian music, lots of geordie references and coalmining type songs
steve <johnquays@optusnet.com.au>
leave the capital exit this roman shell, - Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 12:37:23
(GMT)
....and
have a go at the quiz while you are there ! Closing date is 31st December 2000
Mark Warner <bragg@webone.com.au>
Braggtopia!, - Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 06:51:41 (GMT)
Billy Bragg with John Peel and crew in a seasonal singalong from 1996 - your
MP3 gift from Braggtopia! To collect your present go to : - http://www.webone.com.au/~bragg
- and select the tab for MP3 Downloads. - Ho! Ho! Ho! - Braggtopia! The Ultimate
Billy Bragg Website http://www.webone.com.au/~bragg
Mark Warner <bragg@webone.com.au>
Braggtopia!, - Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 06:49:11 (GMT)
Nevski
said .."im quite impressed with steves recent preachings. he is now my church"
... ..YOU DONT NEED A CHURCH NEVSKI..as an atheist I have no belief in a creator
...a big difference, dont confuse athiesm as a faith --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SOME OTHER SUPERSTITOUS PERSON FULL OF FEAR ALSO SPOUTED..." In many places
the land shall be left untilled, and there shall be great slaughters of the
upper class. The right hand of the world shall fear the left, and the north
shall prevail over the south. Hmmm..." THE HHMM AT THE END IS SO FUNNY...legends
myths fear and superstitions , may your xmas be free from the shackles of them
all.....Siobahn I have a friend who is a Hindu and just became a Swami...although
it doesnt stop her driving a personalised number plate on a mercedes and wearing
$250.000 of jewllery and being a nasty bastard most of the time..Hindu's have
to be one of the biggest groups of religious hypocrites Ive ever come across.
steve <sunderland 1 v 0 man city>
phew, - Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 04:26:47 (GMT)
Steve,
I thought of you as my six year old asked me to write her a letter excusing
her from the carol service. Truth is however, that her best friend is a hindu
and she wasn't going. I wrote the letter anyway. So, much love and peace to
all at the BBgb (something that has brightened up my year no end).
siobhan
- Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 03:16:03 (GMT)
ooops!
no xmas for john quays
paul griffiths <pablogriffo@netscape.net>
perth, australia - Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 02:37:28 (GMT)
on
xmas for john quays
paul griffiths <pablogriffo@netscape.net>
perth, australia - Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 02:35:09 (GMT)
But
Pete, Durruti and Carol are right. It's always a victory. It's always worth
it.
Barbara <beofgoodcheer@wintersolsticetime>
- Sunday, December 24, 2000 at 00:40:41 (GMT)
I
wish I could be that optmistic...... I kniow this is sad, but tonnight i wrote
"!No Pasaran!" on my black guitar, and "Vicisti, O aspidistra!" on my anmp speaker....
pete w <rock revolutionary/commidified
dissent>
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 23:50:37 (GMT)
Happy
Holidays all. I never think of our Winter Solstice romp as religious--but it
is a time for us to collectively celebrate renewal, peace and light. So for
my friends here on the guestbook (and especially Barbara, Robin, and Sonja)
here is something that Buenaventura Durruti, the anarchist who was killed in
the Spanish Civil War, said. His words help me through some long, dark nights:
"It may be that we shall lose our next battle, in the bourgeois sense of the
word; but to fight and lose a battle must enver effect a revolutionarty, because
he must know that his trusted weapon is always the struggle for the casuse he
believes in...therefore the simple act of joining battle is a victory in itself."
Carol <ctarlen@att.net>
San Francisco, - Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 21:44:45 (GMT)
IT'S
SOO COLD I WILL STAY LOCKED IN MY ROOM HIDING IN MY WARM BED UNTIL JUNE WELL
THERE IS SNOW FOR CHRISTMAS
kicker <kickerlib@yaho.com>
hamilton, canada - Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 21:44:15 (GMT)
Red
hair and glasses and separated at birth· *grin*... if only I could get the same
music out of my Strat that Larry Kirwan can from his. Anyway, for all you UK
posters: Larryās hoping to tour solo over here in March, and, even more excitingly,
is trying very hard to get the band over here for the Fleadh and a short tour
next June. Just to serve advanced notice that I will be calling a three-line
whip when this guy finally hits these shores. Believe me, you do not want to
miss him.
Pete Crook <petecrook@bigfoot.com>
London, England - Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 19:33:12 (GMT)
Happy
Holidays to the folks that celebrate and Happy Holidays to the rest of you anyway.
Sonj and Alberr, warmest greetings from the Ingalls. Carol, you must get well
soon so I may drink with you at Specs. Robin, keep kicking righteous ass you
excellent Commie babe (say hi to Ariel for me)
Barbara <iactuallyhavetogofuckingshopping>
oy!, - Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 18:31:49 (GMT)
Sonja:
you never did send me your new postal address so your Chrissie card is still
sitting on my table. But Merry Xmas everybody. The Danish xmas is tomorrow but
we'll be celebrating on 25th, too! Duck on Sunday and Turkey on Monday (clearly
not a vegetarian, then :))
Tettland
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 18:28:37 (GMT)
Happy
festive season every body. Get well soon Carol!!!
sonj
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 17:51:35 (GMT)
hi
robin, the bragg office have worked out that i can only use my free cable tv
access when the BBgb is a few pages long. Otherwise i have to pay to use my
pc modem connection, that is if i had one to use which i haven't at the moment,
so i'm with you.
sonj <well, it makes sense to
me!>
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 17:48:32 (GMT)
Also
- it ties up Internet Explorer so I don't even have the option to go to another
page until this page loads. We don't really need more than two weeks at a time
of You-Know-Whose rants and the reactions to them.
Red Robin
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 17:44:56 (GMT)
To
the Bragg Office: Please consider archiving the posts here every two weeks or
so. This page takes forever to load and eats up a ton of memory. It has crashed
my computer the previous 3 times I tried to log in here. No other site in recent
memory has done this to my computer. TIA.
Red Robin
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 17:41:00 (GMT)
Pete
Crook & Larry Kirwin seperated at birth? Nice photo's Pete.
Jon
Bristol, UK - Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 17:15:59 (GMT)
Does
anybody Know where I can get a copy of The Peel Sessions or any album with A13
Trunk Road to the Sea on it?
Pete gedling <pgedling@hotmail.com>
Epping, England - Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 15:16:12 (GMT)
nevski
- You just helped a certain someone reach a certain quota, and get a little
closer to a certain non god. Perhaps I've just witnessed non christmas miracle.
How wonderful.
Michael <keepingitreal@stupid>
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 15:10:44 (GMT)
im
quite impressed with steves recent preachings. he is now my church. happy 2
days off work for no reason... st mon day and st tues day. see u all in the
millenium.. hang on, i dont know what to believe in anymore....
nevski <santaclaus is drunk>
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 13:13:24 (GMT)
Talking
about prophecies, this is what St. Anthony the Abbot said in the 4th Century...In
the 20th century there will be wars and fury that will last a long time; whole
provinces shall be emptied of their inhabitants, and kingdoms shall be thrown
into confusion. In many places the land shall be left untilled, and there shall
be great slaughters of the upper class. The right hand of the world shall fear
the left, and the north shall prevail over the south. Hmmm...
xxxxxx
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 12:48:45 (GMT)
For
anyone who's interested, my pics of Larry Kirwan's recent gig in Wexford are
here: http://home.btclick.com/pete.crook/billy/photos/wexford/wexford.htm.
Pete Crook <petecrook@bigfoot.com>
London, England - Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 10:33:30 (GMT)
Or
even 99999 out of 100000...
Pete
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 09:19:42 (GMT)
And
on a slightly bizarre note (I only ever watch the news and football on TV, so
am not in a position to comment): both my partner Jill and son Seth absolutely
INSIST that Darren Hanlon's "Beta Losers", from his "Early Days" CD, is used
on a UK TV advert for The Gap. Anyone ? I'm not about to slag him if this is
the case: it's just that I find it too bizarre to be true, given that 999 out
of 1000 Brits would say "Darren who ?"
Pete
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 09:11:40 (GMT)
Heh.
Thanks for the grammatical correction Geoff, but hey, I'm a Cockney (well, by
proxy), and we're allowed to get away with stuff like that...
Pete Crook <petecrook@bigfoot.com>
London, England - Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 09:06:19 (GMT)
http://www.whiskypriests.co.uk/photos.htm...SOME
GOOD PHOTOS HERE OF THE GEORDIE BAND WHISKY PRIESTS..also they have a new project...Gary
and Glenn Miller celebrate their 15th Anniversary as The Whisky Priests, and
marks the birth of their new project, Mad Dogs and Englishmen, an acoustic trio,
which also features Joseph Porter of Blyth Power...be there or be silly
steve <johnquays@optusnet.com.au>
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 07:44:52 (GMT)
eeekkk..another
sign
sh
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 07:38:38 (GMT)
so
this is xmas.....
rokerite
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 07:38:06 (GMT)
so
this is xmas.....
rokerite
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 07:37:59 (GMT)
refusing
supernatural programming is not preaching...keep it simple stupid...xxxx..fuck
god fuck jesus fuck the shite that goes with it...tell you what though the pease
pudding is something else...PeteW if your grannie is still around tell her its
the best recipe Ive used..
steve <godless in the sun>
laugh you miserable bastards, (:>) - Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 07:34:40
(GMT)
Steve:
get out tonight to see 'those bloody mckennas' at the normanby hotel - normanby
fiveways petrie terrace.
geoff
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 06:55:50 (GMT)
Steve
ö Keep preaching your whatever... It's quite whatever... I just finished a full
helping of whatever and it was absolutely whatever...
Michael <yourhatred@whatever>
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 05:02:46 (GMT)
youll
be sorry you laughed when youre in agony. i see satan claws (oh come on, he
wears red - hes obviously the devil incarnate) has really worked his evil magic
on your sorry ass, there is still time, repent now and your soul will be saved.
hester
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 04:50:05 (GMT)
I
won a ham, so Im making some pease pudding anyone fancy some
steve
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 04:46:28 (GMT)
dont
forget I stood on the terraces of Sunderland AFC for 25 years, Ive been to hell
and back..an inflicted catholic once said I will be shovelling soot for eternity??..I
replied my ancestors have been doing it underground for 300 years, now fuck
off....lol
steve
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 04:44:50 (GMT)
hahahahahahahahahahaha...more
steve
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 04:40:42 (GMT)
steve
- well maybe it is a sign. lets face it, yahweh will smite you down with his
vengeful and mighty wrath, you unbeleiver you - youll spend the rest of eternity
burning in the firey bowels of hell, youll suffer torments that make the holocaust
look like an ickle kiddies game. then youll look up to heaven and see all the
lovely blonde haired, blue eyed american children playing in a nice suburban
garden, and think back, and wish youd been more open minded about the significance
of that cd...
hester
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 04:38:16 (GMT)
siobhan,
I worked 80 hours this week and do I need this break, snapped up some cheeky
cds today...northumbrian pipe music by joe hutton,...swan lake cd...Bob Dylan's
New Morning..The Ruts Ruts album..and John Babbecombe Lee by Fairport Convention..awesome
story...I ordered Nee Gud Luck by the whisky priests and amazon sent me a religous
cd instead(bastards)...now some theist will tell me its a sign...(:)...come
on Boro sunderland need you to beat spurs(sorry petec)
steve
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 03:31:10 (GMT)
happy
birthday jesus ......you little shit you, and while were on, look at the fucking
misery and hatred and death & starvation you have caused for 2000 years, thank
fuck you and your (sadly in need of threapy) disciples(church worshippers) are
on the decline, and the quicker people realise your silly twat of a dad is an
imaginery totem the better...but overall a clever book of libels is the bible...merry
xmas..(:)
steve <johnquays@optusnet.com.au>
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 03:22:10 (GMT)
well,
I'm sickeningly jealous of all this holiday talk since i)we have no snow, ii)I
am working on Christmas Day and Boxing Day, iii)I have bought my children too
many presents and not paid the phone bill, iv) I waited on a party of 40 (forty)
nurses last night and they never left a tip (and no service charge in my restaurant).
Happy Christmas your arse
siobhan <Bah humbug@bitter
and twisted.com>
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 02:07:20 (GMT)
Actually,
that's a very enjoyable link for us old farties, Northern Teen! All the tracks
from the first 80% of the old Festive Fifty section were recognizable to me,
who is unaware of the world of music since ~1985...
Boguespierre
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 01:52:50 (GMT)
is
no one gonna wish the lovely baby jesus a happy birthday? you HEATHENS!!!!
hester
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 00:18:44 (GMT)
PeteC:
shouldn't that be "Seth, Jack and I will be there"? - sorry, couldn't resist
that one!
geoff
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 00:18:29 (GMT)
HAPPY
HANUKKA!!! ok its a whole 9 minutes late, but im sorry!!
hester
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 00:16:55 (GMT)
In
1555, Nostradamus wrote: "Come the millennium, month twelve, in the home of
greatest power, The village idiot will come forth to be acclaimed the leader."
Red Robin
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 00:03:54 (GMT)
See
ya down the Railway Tavern on White Hart Lane, then...
Pete
- Saturday, December 23, 2000 at 00:00:18 (GMT)
Tottenham
v Middlesbrough tomorrow, of course, and me, Seth, and Jack will be there...
Pete
- Friday, December 22, 2000 at 23:48:24 (GMT)
of
course the words Dick Turpin posted at.... Friday, December 22, 2000 at 18:34:08
(GMT)are the words to the Majestic Alan Hull song 'Winter Song'...nothing but
a classic....Have a great holiday PeteC...and love to your family and everyone
else Ive battled with, insulted, pissed off and made great friends with...but
scooter arent you being rather elitist to say people are blinkered because they
dont agree with you?...people may make more informed opinions than you imagine...WHEN
we all engage in ritual superstitous behaviour this Xmas and hand gifts over
in the name of a idol(christ) remember the real christianity is the medievil
christianity and all the cruelties that go with it
steve <johnquays@optusnet.com.au>
33c inbrisbane, have a good one Geoff, Theo, Kim, Laura, Derek,Luther,Teen,Petec,PeteW,Pam,
Jon, Jon??.. - Friday, December 22, 2000 at 23:38:58 (GMT)
Sorry
about this. I won't waste anymore space with my pointless ramblings
Northern Teen <BBBBBored>
boooooooRED, bored. - Friday, December 22, 2000 at 23:17:42 (GMT)
BRING
BACK THE TERRACES!
Northern Teen
- Friday, December 22, 2000 at 23:16:44 (GMT)
don't
talk to me about Dawson's Creek. It's just mush. It's for girls. It is the most
unrealistic thing on tele - teenagers aren't like that. real life isn't like
that. yet people say there's valuable life lessons in it & that teenagers associate
with it. b*llocks man! if you think your life's like that, you're living in
a dream
Northern Teen <bored>
borrrrrred, bOrEd - Friday, December 22, 2000 at 23:15:25 (GMT)
Buffy
The Vampire Slayer. Why don't they just put it out of its misery. Surely one
of the rubbishest shows on tv. Amazing, because the first series was superb
- excitement&goodstorylines&smglookinglikeafox - but then the b@stards strayed
into Dawson's Creek territory. uuuuurrrrgh. no more romance i can't stand it
anymore
Northern Teen <bored>
bored city, boredom - Friday, December 22, 2000 at 23:12:51 (GMT)
boring
boring boring BORING boring aaaaarrrrrggh. i think i'll download some atari
teenage riot songs
Northern Teen
- Friday, December 22, 2000 at 23:09:33 (GMT)
Hey
people, did anyone notice that Billy Bragg was on John Peel's Festive Fifty
programme the other night? He was taking part in the celebrity quiz with Peely
mastering, and Jarvis Cocker, Graham Coxon and some bloke from Hefner joining
Billy to battle it out. Dunno who won, like. Mr Bragg was apparently pratting
around in the background throwing bits of paper at everyone. You can listen
to all these capers by going to http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/djs/peel_festive_fifty_special.shtml
But don't bother anyway, it's a bit sh** really
Northern Teen <teessiders@lycos.com>
- Friday, December 22, 2000 at 23:07:17 (GMT)
Its
OK Michael. I can see the connection. I remember the Two Booths in Park Slope.
They would give the kids tiny pieces of dough to play with. It was one of the
few places, where children could be kept busy and they had food for adults.
Only bar in NYC (to my knowledge) that Anchor Steam Beer on tap.
James
- Friday, December 22, 2000 at 20:48:00 (GMT)
michael...
it's close to my work and it's cheap. plus i don't like a ton of crap on my
pizza--like two boots.
keri
- Friday, December 22, 2000 at 20:38:14 (GMT)
Keri
- I'll have to visit The Pizza Box. Is it better than Two Boots pizza? James
- I'm Sorry for linking Octavio Paz to The Gang of Nine.
Michael
- Friday, December 22, 2000 at 20:30:27 (GMT)
Though
Steve (the Mackem from Brisbane via Sunderland) and I will always have our differences,
I was listening to a quite wonderful tape of Alan Hull / Lindisfarne's music
which Steve sent to me (cheers Steve), whilst in the wild wasteland of Hayes
in West London (Steve Perryman territory NB) in that ridiculous search for elusive
Christmas presents for the kids. It was so incongruous it wasn't true: there
was Jacka screaming in me ear about socialism while I was queueing up at Argos.
Pete Crook <petecrook@bigfoot.com>
London, England - Friday, December 22, 2000 at 20:11:17 (GMT)
Michael,
I hope not. The Florida papers are acting on their own. As for that "quote",
I would not insult the great Octavio Paz, buy associating him with that despicable
body, collectively known as "THE US SUPREME COURT"
James
- Friday, December 22, 2000 at 19:59:19 (GMT)
Thanks
for that James, but are you sure you are not quoting the US Supreme Court?
Michael
- Friday, December 22, 2000 at 19:13:03 (GMT)
Illiterate
I raised my face to the sky that huge stone of worn-out letters but the stars
told me nothing
Octavio Paz
- Friday, December 22, 2000 at 19:05:39 (GMT)
Instead
of kicking the asses of "stupid sheep" voters, Luther, you may want to consider
the simple fact that punch card voting machines (which are far more prevalent
in poorer voting districts) produced five times as many of the so-called "under
votes" than the more modern, optical scanning machines (which are far more prevalent
in richer communities). Therefore, over 30,000 of the 40,000 people in Florida
were denied their most fundamental American right because of their economic
status.
Michael
- Friday, December 22, 2000 at 18:59:07 (GMT)
When
Winter's shadowy fingers first pursue you down the street/And your boots no
longer lie about the cold around your feet/Do you spare a thought for Summer
who's passage is complete?/Whose memories lie in ruins and whose ruins lie in
heat/When Winter...comes howlin' in...
Dick Turpin (or Palmer if you prefer) <Black-Bess@myth.co.uk>
York, UK - Friday, December 22, 2000 at 18:34:08 (GMT)
looking
forward to seeing Billy & the Boys at the Bottom Line Dec 30. Very sad news
on the tragic death of Billy's friend and great singer Kirsty MacColl, and of
10,000 Maniacs lead guitarist Robert Buck, both will be terribly missed.
Mike Messina <mmtwenty3@aol.com>
Maspeth, NY, USA - Friday, December 22, 2000 at 18:31:07 (GMT)
We
have about 2" of snow in beautiful New Paltz. It looks cool hanging on the trees.
The election nonsence is not going to go away that easy. Using a application
from the Freedom Of Inormation Act, two Florida based newspapers are filing
suit demanding to "count the votes themselves. If they determine Gore actually
recieved the plurality of votes, it will cast doubt (which already exists) as
to the ligitimacy of his presidency. (Ha!) Will that mean we can refer to him
as the Bastard President remains to be seen. What a sad week Kristy McCall,
Robeuck Staples, Milt Hinton (upright basist) all passed away.
james
New Paltz, - Friday, December 22, 2000 at 18:08:18 (GMT)
If
you're looking to kick some ass, Jessica, you'd better include all the stupid
sheep who trudged down to the polls, palm cards in hand, and did as they were
told rather than thinking for themselves. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_exnews/20001121_xex_condo_comman.shtml
Luther Gaylord
- Friday, December 22, 2000 at 17:47:43 (GMT)
Is
anyone able to tell me when Billy's album is coming out based on Woody Guthrie's
Children's songs? Thanks and have a merry Christmas all....
scooter <sadlingt@Lww.com>
Baltimore, USA - Friday, December 22, 2000 at 17:26:28 (GMT)
Happy
Holidays everyone! I'll be in FloriDUH for Christmas. I'm planning to give Jeb
Bush, Katherine Harris, and half the residents of West Palm a swift kick in
the ass. Anyone else I'm forgetting?
Jessica <jessicajolly@lycos.com>
- Friday, December 22, 2000 at 16:56:50 (GMT)
ok,
everyone who doesn't want to be at work today raise your hand...
keri
- Friday, December 22, 2000 at 16:54:14 (GMT)
The
flurries are lovely. . . but it never sticks in our concrete jungle.
Jessica <ilovepizzaboxonbleekertoo>
NYC, - Friday, December 22, 2000 at 16:49:05 (GMT)
michael--i'd
have to go with papa johns... but living in new york one doesn't dare eat chain
store pizzas.
keri <pizzaboxonbleecker>
- Friday, December 22, 2000 at 15:38:28 (GMT)
you
too derik... but isn't the snow lovely? i love it.
keri
- Friday, December 22, 2000 at 15:09:51 (GMT)
Happy
holidays to all (whatever one you celebrate or ignore). Time for my week off.
derik <aargh, snowing again
in Philly!>
- Friday, December 22, 2000 at 14:26:43 (GMT)
Apologies
if this isnāt of relevance, but please note that if anyone is sending (or has
sent over the past two days) email to my work address, I wonāt get to see it
Ītil January 8. Please just use petecrook@bigfoot.com for now. Ta.
Pete Crook <petecrook@bigfoot.com>
London, England - Friday, December 22, 2000 at 09:00:36 (GMT)
Apparently,
"The American public doesn't need the Supreme Court to tell them which pizza
they like better," we simply need them to determine the presidency... http://www.boston.com/news/daily/21/pizza_fight.htm
Michael
Thin Crust, New Jersey - Friday, December 22, 2000 at 01:21:38 (GMT)
The
Guardian are holding an online 'chat' in the notes & queries section, glad to
see that Bill has 2 enteries.."All my friends from school Introduce me to their
spouses While I'm left standing here With my hands down the front of my trousis"
and "Like a bully boy in a Benetton shop, Your never happy with what you've
got, until what you've got has gone,,,,," Now if I can only figure out how to
submit to this.
Jon
Bristol, UK - Thursday, December 21, 2000 at 23:45:52 (GMT)
Good
luck, Sonja....you have my support, however insignificant and crappy it may
be. And yes, I think I am obliged to be posh now, but I will endevour to purge
the taint left on Lady Margaret Hall college by the presence of Anne Widdecombe
:) the only other alumni mentioned was Benazir Bhutto.....
pete w <hardcoretim@yahoo.com>
- Thursday, December 21, 2000 at 22:57:10 (GMT)
Sonj:
"I am suffering BBgb withdrawal symptoms." ...ditto....but I would like to wish
everyone here at the BBgb a Merry Christmas & Happy New Year. I'll be heading
to a computer-free environment down in Kentucky till after New Years, so I'd
like to wish y'all seasons greetings now. Sonj, my prayers are with you and
Alberr in re yr. job situation....they are saying we are going to see economic
problems here in the USA, too... year...I don't know what the new year will
bring....alot of uncertainty and change, no doubt. But at least we in Ohio are
having a very white Christmas...its' snowed in Kentucky too, this year...snow
brightens up this gloomy time.
Jeff <dwellej@aol.com>
Dayton,OH, USA - Thursday, December 21, 2000 at 21:23:42 (GMT)
I
guess the real sad thing for me about this is that Kirstys two kids where present
when that happened, and that it happened so close to Christmas (and to think
she is known for a Christmas tune, too...).
Jeff <dwellej@aol.com>
Dayton, OH, USA - Thursday, December 21, 2000 at 21:16:29 (GMT)
I've
just been re-reading the quotes on "Galore", from Bill, Morrissey, Johnny Marr,
Shane McGowan and all. Actually David Byrne's is the best, by far, and to which
there is no answer: "The voice of an angel, from a mind and heart inflamed by
Thatcher's England."
Pete Crook <petecrook@bigfoot.com>
London, England - Thursday, December 21, 2000 at 20:15:47 (GMT)
The
centuries have changed little in this art, // The subjects are still the same.
// ćFor Christās sake take off your clothes and get into bed, // We are not
going to live forever.ä // ćPetals fall from the rose,ä -K. Rexroth excerpted
from "August 22, 1939"
derik <non sequitur>
- Thursday, December 21, 2000 at 19:52:23 (GMT)
have
just been reading the messages on Kirsty MacColls web-site - lots of beautiful/heartfelt
words on there - I wonder if she knew how much she meant to so many people (most
of who had never met her) Sonj: I never knew things were that grim - I hope
everything pans out right for you - you deserve it
Brian
London, UK - Thursday, December 21, 2000 at 19:40:55 (GMT)
ASDA!
If it's anything like the place near us, the customer services announcements
were advising the customers to blink and breath once in a while. I'm not saying
it's rough, but it has a sign above the door "You are now leaving the gene pool"
Jon
Bristol, UK - Thursday, December 21, 2000 at 18:48:09 (GMT)
Sonj,
Mr & Mrs me are keeping our fingers x'd for you. TIP, don't apply for work in
a callcenter, they're doing their seasonal sweep in our place at the moment
to save a measly handful of pounds on the xmas bonus (which they don't get anyway!)
Have a good xmas.
Jon
Bristol, UK - Thursday, December 21, 2000 at 18:46:20 (GMT)
pete,
i've just spotted the name of your uni! are you posh now:)
sonj
- Thursday, December 21, 2000 at 17:55:52 (GMT)
sonj-i
heard about the buy out when i was last in england... year and 1/2 ago?. fuck.
i can't believe it went through... actually i'm not surprised. say goodbye to
high street. ok, erin, that's a horrible example of globalization. walmarts
should never have left bentonville. ahhhhhhhhh well, that ruined my day. boycott
sonj... it might be cheaper at walmart... but the price later is unbelievable.
keri
- Thursday, December 21, 2000 at 17:43:56 (GMT)
Hi
Carol. thanks for your message of support! It looks as if neither alberr or
i will know if we have got a job after January until after christmas. How
