Genocide is:
The systematic and planned extermination of an entire national, racial, political, or ethnic group.

eth·nic (ĕth'nĭk)
adj.
a.Of, relating to, or characteristic of a sizeable group of people sharing a common and distinctive racial, national, religious, linguistic, or cultural heritage.

Culture (from the Latin cultura stemming from colere, meaning "to cultivate,") generally refers to patterns of human activity and the symbolic structures that give such activity significance...characteristic behaviours and habits of the selected intelligent entities. In particular, it has specific more detailed meanings in different domains of human activities.


Abortion is systematic, possibly the most efficient and organised of all genocides.

It is planned, with the help of organisations such as the “planned parenthood”.

The entire group that are targeted is the “unwanted unborn”.

Abortion is Genocide

hey Jimmy, here's a book for you to read!

Title: Inadequate Evidence and Illogical Conclusions
Authors: Kagan, Jerome S.
Descriptors: Compensatory Education; Genetics; Intelligence Differences; Intelligence Quotient; Lower Class Students; Parent Child Relationship; Program Evaluation; Racial Differences; Research; Twins
Source: Harvard Educ Rev, 39, 2, 274-277, 69 Spr

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Lego is vestri.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:
"Norðri, Suðri, Austri and Vestri
In Norse mythology, Norðri, Suðri, Austri and Vestri ("Northern, Southern, Eastern and Western") were four dwarves who each supported one of the four cardinal points. Together, they upheld the heavenly dome, created from the skull of the giant Ymir."

That's an interesting belief system Jimmy, but what's Lego got to do with it?

Why do you bother?

Are you here to debate, or to stifle it?

Are you even interested in the pursuit of truth, or are you only here to distort it?

What do you think you are achieving?

achieving?

annoying you. thats the raison d’être.

Now you see you've glossed over the word "people" in your definition above. A foetus is not a person. Don't forget, my Dad is bigger than your Dad.


Truth? There's two kinds of truth Jimmy. Didn't you learn that in philosophy seminars? My Dad taught me that years ago and he's bigger than your Dad.

(Please read my fuller comments on truth in another thread "What are the root causes..........?)

Do you really think you are making valid contributions to the debate with comments like that?

And that's all you have to say is it?

Read post number one, study the text, identify any possible flaws, highlight them and explain why they are wrong (if you can), substantiate your counter argument, give reasons and dictionary definitions for the possible alternatives, source your information and reference your research if they contradict the original argument. Give examples perhaps of well documented genocides. But do not make a counter argument by saying: "my Dad is bigger than your Dad", because that is not an answer that I will accept. I hope I get through to you this time, I'm not sure I can make it any clearer than that.

10 songs about abortion.

1. Brick - Ben Folds five

I'm on the brink of victory.

You really are very arrogant. My post was reasonable with none of the "(if you can)" asides, patronising comments like "I hope I get through to you this time." Yet you have countered with this. Are you genuinely looking for debate or simply attempting to wind me and others up. I'll tell you what, your last post has seriously wound me up.

Let me make this clear to you, and this is going to be my last attempt, you've glossed over the word "people" in your definition of genocide above. A foetus is not a person.

You said you were attempting to seek the truth, or words to that effect. There's at least two kinds of truth Jimmy. Didn't you learn that in philosophy seminars?

I really don't think this 'argument' needs another thread. I hope Toby merges it with the already completely ridiculous 'root causes etc.' thread.

You don't happen to be in favour of abortion do you?






You are not in a position to talk about arrogance, remember this: "my Dad is bigger than your Dad...".

Please.



OK, prove they are not people.



The truth is the truth.

Jimmy lets examine this, you have made a statment backed up by nothing than a dictionary definition.

Why do the unwanted unborn constitute an ethnic group?

Why do foetuses constitute a person and when do they constitute a person and when do their human rights begin?

What cultural heritage do the unwanted unborn unpeople share?

What racial characteristics do they share?

What religious affiliations do they share?

When exactly do the unborn become intelligent entities or are we talking 2001 A Space Odyessy Star Child type entity?

Are you trying to equate planned parent hood with ther Hutu and Tutsi genocides of Rwanda? Of the ethnic cleansing in the Balkans? hey were systematic.

Is there a grand global conspiracy to wipe out the unborn? to what end?

Back up your assertions with some fact, argument, figures etc if not

you lose.


Jesus Slaves

The truth is that your opinion does not matter. It's cute that you think it does.

These are facts, not my words:

Genocide is:
The systematic and planned extermination of an entire national, racial, political, or ethnic group.

eth·nic (ĕth'nĭk)
adj.
a.Of, relating to, or characteristic of a sizeable group of people sharing a common and distinctive racial, national, religious, linguistic, or cultural heritage.

Culture (from the Latin cultura stemming from colere, meaning "to cultivate,") generally refers to patterns of human activity and the symbolic structures that give such activity significance...characteristic behaviours and habits of the selected intelligent entities. In particular, it has specific more detailed meanings in different domains of human activities.


Abortion is systematic, possibly the most efficient and organised of all genocides.

It is planned, with the help of organisations such as the “planned parenthood”.

The entire group that are targeted is the “unwanted unborn”.

FWIW: I enjoy a solid argument, this is not an argument. For arguments sake though:

As far as I know, foetuses do not have culture according your definitions, because they do not have behaviours or activities, let alone symbolic structures that give their 'activities' meaning.
Ergo abortion is not genocide.

"A fetus (or foetus, or fœtus) is a developing mammal or other viviparous vertebrate."

Notice the word "developing" there.

And here's some truth for you.

"Which race must the National Socialist race fight against?

The Jewish race.

Why?

The goal of the Jew is to make himself the ruler of humanity. Wherever he comes, he destroys works of culture. He is not a creative spirit, rather a destructive spirit.

How is that evident?

The work of Aryan peoples shows a true creative spirit. The Jew is mostly a merchant, as he was for millennia in the past. There are no Jewish construction workers in Germany, no smiths, no Jewish miners or seamen. Nearly all major inventions were made by Aryans.

How has the Jew subjugated the peoples?

With money. He lent them money and made them pay interest. Thousands and thousands of Germans have been made wretched by the Jews and been reduced to poverty. Farmers whose land had been in the family for more than 100 years were driven from their land because they could not pay the interest.

What happened to those farmers?

They had to move to the cities. Torn from the land to which they belonged, robbed of their labor that gave their lives purpose and meaning, they fell victim to poverty and misery. Worn down, their souls crushed, they accepted Jewish doctrines that denied the Fatherland and opposed all that was nationalistic. Their strength and ability faded. The Jew had reached his goal.

What other guilt does the Jew bear?

While the German people was fighting a life and death battle during the World War, the Jew incited people at home and seduced them into treason. The November Revolution of 1918 that brought about Germany's collapse was the work of the Jew.

In countless newspapers in Germany and abroad, he brought everything German into the mud, slandering us and inciting our enemies even more than they already were. His lackeys in leading positions in the Reich persecuted the National Socialist movement, bringing the fighters for a new Germany before judges and throwing them into prison.

He corrupted Germans through bad books, and mocked true literature and German music, replacing it with ungermanic music. Everywhere, his influence was destructive." Werner May, Deutscher National-Katechismus 2nd edition (Breslau: Verlag von Heinrich Handel, 1934)

Many people sent this forth as truth. Why was it accepted as truth? Because someone in power said it was true. That is what I mean by "two kinds of truth." What is acceptable as 'true' depends on a great many factors, one of which is the political point from which you start. Truth is not a thing which exists separate from anything else.

For fucks sake - more bloddy troll bating.
Let it go will ya fellas - he doesn't need any more oxygen, frankly its a shame he was ever given any.

I know I know... but it's so tempting, like scratching a sore.

I think the fact its the boys keep doing it, annoys me more than if it was people who actually have wombs, if you see what I mean...

There's a part of me that enjoys this because it helps me get an argument together.