With the ideal of multiculturalism, comes the sharing of the cultural identities...
Can anyone name me:
five styles of morris dancing
five english folk songs that aren't by Steeleye Span or <spit>Steelers Wheel
five english folk legends
five reasons why I would be considered racist for wanting to bring english stories and songs to the multicultural banquet
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I reckon Tallshio and/or Joanie Crumpet will be along shortly to answer most of these.
QUOTE(dissident @ Apr 9 2007, 03:19 AM) 
With the ideal of multiculturalism, comes the sharing of the cultural identities...
Can anyone name me:
five styles of morris dancing
five english folk songs that aren't by Steeleye Span or <spit>Steelers Wheel
five english folk legends
five reasons why I would be considered racist for wanting to bring english stories and songs to the multicultural banquet
Can't say I understand what the hell you're on about but . . . .
North west; Border; Sword dancing; Mumming; Vessel cupping are styles of Morris dance
Folk songs: She Moves Through the Fair, Cruel Sister, Long Lankin, Tam Lin, Little Musgrave.
Legends - Robin Hood; King Lear; Gog and Magog; Tristan and Iseulde; King Arthur
It's this last test that I don't understand. What is racist about sharing good stories and songs? I think you've got a bee in your bonnet about the term "multiculturalism." You are probably one of those people who has no understanding of what the term means. Just like the Daily Mail, the Tories and the BNP.
P.S. Multiculturalism implies more than two, as in two way street.
QUOTE(dissident @ Apr 9 2007, 03:19 AM)
With the ideal of multiculturalism, comes the sharing of the cultural identities...
Can anyone name me:
five styles of morris dancing
five english folk songs that aren't by Steeleye Span or <spit>Steelers Wheel
five english folk legends
five reasons why I would be considered racist for wanting to bring english stories and songs to the multicultural banquet
Robin Hood, Dick Terpin, King Alfred the Great, Francis Drake and Boudicca ( for the sisters)
morris dancing, sorry but i grew up in an inner city and it was only brake dancing. and morris dance did'nt come to our school. but when we moved to a middle class area I saw them all the time.....LOL my mates dad was one,
five english folk songs.....i most probably sang loads in school assembly but can't rember them. "morning has broken" thats one we used sing all the time and Yesterday by the Beatles and This old man, he played one. He played Nick-Nack on my thumb. With a Nick-Nack Paddy Whack and The Quartermaster's Song and its a long way to tipperary and on ilkly moor bar tat on ilkly moor bar tat oh on ilky moor bar tat.
oh and I is an ethnic
I'm more of a polyculturalist myself.
QUOTE(barmyrob @ Apr 10 2007, 09:30 AM)
I'm more of a polyculturalist myself.
What you do with/to Parrots is your business
QUOTE(barmyrob @ Apr 10 2007, 09:30 AM)
I'm more of a polyculturalist myself.
How is that different from a multiculturalist? Or are you simply trying to take the piss?
QUOTE(Andy Larter @ Apr 10 2007, 10:10 AM)
QUOTE(barmyrob @ Apr 10 2007, 09:30 AM)
I'm more of a polyculturalist myself.
How is that different from a multiculturalist? Or are you simply trying to take the piss?
It is very different from multiculturalism.
Polyculturalism means an understanding that cultures and races are not distinct. I think multiculturalism actually encourages rascism by celebrating differences rather than similarities.
QUOTE(Vijay Prashad)
Are cultures discrete and bounded? Do cultures have a history or are they static? Who defines the boundaries of culture or allows for change? Do cultures leak into each other? … To respect the fetish of culture assumes that one wants to enshrine it in the museum of humankind rather than find within it the potential for liberation or for change. We’d have to accept homophobia and sexism, class cruelty and racism, all in the service of being respectful to someone’s perverse definition of culture.
QUOTE(barmyrob @ Apr 10 2007, 10:32 AM)
QUOTE(Andy Larter @ Apr 10 2007, 10:10 AM)
QUOTE(barmyrob @ Apr 10 2007, 09:30 AM)
I'm more of a polyculturalist myself.
How is that different from a multiculturalist? Or are you simply trying to take the piss?
It is very different from multiculturalism.
Polyculturalism means an understanding that cultures and races are not distinct. I think multiculturalism actually encourages rascism by celebrating differences rather than similarities.
QUOTE(Vijay Prashad)
Are cultures discrete and bounded? Do cultures have a history or are they static? Who defines the boundaries of culture or allows for change? Do cultures leak into each other? … To respect the fetish of culture assumes that one wants to enshrine it in the museum of humankind rather than find within it the potential for liberation or for change. We’d have to accept homophobia and sexism, class cruelty and racism, all in the service of being respectful to someone’s perverse definition of culture.
the guy who wrote this need to read it.
http://www.dewsburytoday.co.uk/ViewArticle...ticleid=2229660
Savile Town, Where's it gone?
(Words by Colin Auty)
Ali's shops on the corner,
And there's Mosques all over town.
24 hours a day kebab house,
Asian taxis run by Crown.
This little piece of England,
Green and often pleasant land, why the hell am I complaining,
And why don't I understand -
Chorus:
And I say....
Where is the chapel, where my grandma used to pray?
Where is the alehouse, where my father drank each day?
Where is the butchers shop, our mam would buy her pork?
Where have all the white folks gone, who used to stop and talk?
The bookies halfway down our street,
As (sic) long since gone as well.
And Dr Watson's been replaced,
By a man they call Patel.
It's curried rice and foreign dips,
No British fish & chips.
And the languages that we hear all day,
Come from foreign lips.
Repeat Chorus.
The bowling green and veterans' club,
Are now a ghostly past.
It's mainly used for cricket now,
Bangladesh were batting last.
If it's drugs you lack, you'll find your smack,
And the dealer promises more,
If next time you'll pass, you'll bring a lass,
Of 12 and not much more.
Billy article in today's Guardian: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/st...2053505,00.html
QUOTE
They're not just British values - but we need them anyway
Identity can't be imposed from above, but a legally enshrined expression of our common principles is in everyone's interests
Billy Bragg
Tuesday April 10, 2007
The Guardian
Over the past few years there has been a growing sense of victimhood among sections of the indigenous population, a feeling that, although in the majority, white Britons are somehow being oppressed. This ridiculous idea is often expressed in radio phone-ins where disgruntled callers claim they "are no longer allowed to be British". I listen intently as the host asks them to identify who, exactly, is denying them their right to be British, and in what way. The callers offer generalisations, but ultimately fail to give any solid examples of discrimination. It always comforts me when their sense of grievance is revealed to be unfounded, which is why I am concerned that the new National Union of Teachers president may have inadvertently armed these people with a response to this question.
Speaking at the NUT conference in Harrogate, Baljeet Ghale accused ministers of fuelling racism by ordering schools to teach British values. These values were recently defined by the education secretary, Alan Johnson, as free speech, tolerance and respect for the rule of law. Had the minister simply called for these principles to be taught in school, I doubt Ghale would have criticised the idea. Her support for the teaching of tolerance was underlined later in her speech when she called for an education system that valued diversity and accepted her right to support Tottenham Hotspur (and France in the European Cup, Brazil in the World Cup, Kenya in the Olympics and India in cricket - but England in the Ashes).
Her problem, it seems, was not with teaching such values per se, but with the suggestion that they should be labelled "British". Already, I fear, furious reactionaries will be looking up the number of their local radio phone-in. Here is an example of something positive becoming unacceptable simply by being identified with the majority culture. As someone who has opposed racism for 30 years, I find that disturbing.
Of course Ghale was right to ask in what way the values Johnson cited were not also held in other countries. But the notion that British values are inherently based on our own virtues and so belong to us alone is clearly a mistaken one, fostered by politicians who, whenever they evoke the principles on which they believe society should be based, can't resist flaunting their patriotism by naming them "British values".
In fact, the values that societies hold dear tend to be universal in nature - think of France's liberté, egalité, fraternité, ideals upheld on this side of the Channel. In this sense, when politicians speak of "British values" they mean those which we as a society aspire to rather than those that are ours alone. And contrary to Ghale's misgivings, without such common principles to bind us, we will never be able to be a truly diverse society.
While I am not one of those who claim that multiculturalism has "failed", I do recognise it has created a vacuum at its centre. For while we celebrate our differences, we have given too little attention to those things that we have in common. As a result, trust and solidarity between communities are beginning to falter, and racist parties are exploiting this breakdown for their own evil ends.
Alan Johnson's call for the teaching of Britishness is a response to this problem, but not the solution. Too often, teaching British citizenship seems little more than a glorified history lesson. Of course, our past helps us to understand why we are all here, but knowing the date of the battle of Trafalgar isn't going to help you negotiate the modern high street. Ultimately, if we hope to use the subject to help create a more cohesive society, then Britishness has to be defined by the principles that govern our relationships with one another.
The true majority in this country are those, from whatever background, who subscribe to a set of core values - among them freedom of expression, conscience, movement, tolerance of diversity but not of hatred, respect for the rights of others, and responsibility for one's actions. If most people didn't subscribe to such principles, then life here would be simply intolerable.
Of course, anybody who has to face discrimination on a daily basis will tell you these much trumpeted values are, in reality, nothing more than aspirations. The challenge, then, is to manifest these ideals in a practical way that is accessible to all.
The subtext of Ghale's speech was that identity cannot be imposed from above. She's right. Migrants will only add a British dimension to their identity if they feel that it is in their interests to do so. The time has come for a new bill of rights, one that can be set in our own legal system, rather than relying on the European Convention on Human Rights.
An expression of our values in a document enforceable by law would give those who wished to integrate something tangible to aim for and empower newcomers to hold us to account if we fail to live up to our own aspirations.
· Billy Bragg is a musician and author of The Progressive Patriot - A Search for Belonging
Identity can't be imposed from above, but a legally enshrined expression of our common principles is in everyone's interests
Billy Bragg
Tuesday April 10, 2007
The Guardian
Over the past few years there has been a growing sense of victimhood among sections of the indigenous population, a feeling that, although in the majority, white Britons are somehow being oppressed. This ridiculous idea is often expressed in radio phone-ins where disgruntled callers claim they "are no longer allowed to be British". I listen intently as the host asks them to identify who, exactly, is denying them their right to be British, and in what way. The callers offer generalisations, but ultimately fail to give any solid examples of discrimination. It always comforts me when their sense of grievance is revealed to be unfounded, which is why I am concerned that the new National Union of Teachers president may have inadvertently armed these people with a response to this question.
Speaking at the NUT conference in Harrogate, Baljeet Ghale accused ministers of fuelling racism by ordering schools to teach British values. These values were recently defined by the education secretary, Alan Johnson, as free speech, tolerance and respect for the rule of law. Had the minister simply called for these principles to be taught in school, I doubt Ghale would have criticised the idea. Her support for the teaching of tolerance was underlined later in her speech when she called for an education system that valued diversity and accepted her right to support Tottenham Hotspur (and France in the European Cup, Brazil in the World Cup, Kenya in the Olympics and India in cricket - but England in the Ashes).
Her problem, it seems, was not with teaching such values per se, but with the suggestion that they should be labelled "British". Already, I fear, furious reactionaries will be looking up the number of their local radio phone-in. Here is an example of something positive becoming unacceptable simply by being identified with the majority culture. As someone who has opposed racism for 30 years, I find that disturbing.
Of course Ghale was right to ask in what way the values Johnson cited were not also held in other countries. But the notion that British values are inherently based on our own virtues and so belong to us alone is clearly a mistaken one, fostered by politicians who, whenever they evoke the principles on which they believe society should be based, can't resist flaunting their patriotism by naming them "British values".
In fact, the values that societies hold dear tend to be universal in nature - think of France's liberté, egalité, fraternité, ideals upheld on this side of the Channel. In this sense, when politicians speak of "British values" they mean those which we as a society aspire to rather than those that are ours alone. And contrary to Ghale's misgivings, without such common principles to bind us, we will never be able to be a truly diverse society.
While I am not one of those who claim that multiculturalism has "failed", I do recognise it has created a vacuum at its centre. For while we celebrate our differences, we have given too little attention to those things that we have in common. As a result, trust and solidarity between communities are beginning to falter, and racist parties are exploiting this breakdown for their own evil ends.
Alan Johnson's call for the teaching of Britishness is a response to this problem, but not the solution. Too often, teaching British citizenship seems little more than a glorified history lesson. Of course, our past helps us to understand why we are all here, but knowing the date of the battle of Trafalgar isn't going to help you negotiate the modern high street. Ultimately, if we hope to use the subject to help create a more cohesive society, then Britishness has to be defined by the principles that govern our relationships with one another.
The true majority in this country are those, from whatever background, who subscribe to a set of core values - among them freedom of expression, conscience, movement, tolerance of diversity but not of hatred, respect for the rights of others, and responsibility for one's actions. If most people didn't subscribe to such principles, then life here would be simply intolerable.
Of course, anybody who has to face discrimination on a daily basis will tell you these much trumpeted values are, in reality, nothing more than aspirations. The challenge, then, is to manifest these ideals in a practical way that is accessible to all.
The subtext of Ghale's speech was that identity cannot be imposed from above. She's right. Migrants will only add a British dimension to their identity if they feel that it is in their interests to do so. The time has come for a new bill of rights, one that can be set in our own legal system, rather than relying on the European Convention on Human Rights.
An expression of our values in a document enforceable by law would give those who wished to integrate something tangible to aim for and empower newcomers to hold us to account if we fail to live up to our own aspirations.
· Billy Bragg is a musician and author of The Progressive Patriot - A Search for Belonging
five styles of morris dancing
Cotswold, Border, Northwest (clog), Molly, and at a push longsword or rapper (though it could be argued that sword dances are a distinct tradition). Not sure if garland should be included as morris, either, but anyway, these are all types of English traditional dance.
(Andy, Mumming isn't dancing, it's a type of folk play, though many morris sides do mumming plays at certain times of the year)
five english folk songs that aren't by Steeleye Span or <spit>Steelers Wheel
The Seeds of Love (the first song collected by Cecil Sharp)
The Grey Cock
Lucy Wan
Polly Vaughan
The Cuckoo
five english folk legends
Not sure exactly what you mean by folk legends, but I'll have a go:
Black Annis, the witch of Leicester
The Black Dog (a tale known from Whitby to Norfolk to Dartmoor)
The legend of Minster Lovell (immortalised in the song The Mistletoe Bough)
The Pendle Witches
The Rutland Panther!
five reasons why I would be considered racist for wanting to bring english stories and songs to the multicultural banquet
I don't think you would. I've been managing a lot of work in schools around clog, rapper and longsword dance, as well as song. The schools are multicultural. There have been no accusations of racism.
Like you, I think that it's important that English traditions are part of the multicultural mix; but I think it's the way that these sentiments are sometimes expressed, rather than the sentiments themselves, which come in for criticism.
'kay, here's another challenge! 5 traditional English customs. I'll start you off:
Pace Egging in Midgely, West Yorks
The Britania Coco-nut Dancers of Bacup, Lancs
The Hare Pie Scramble and Bottle Kicking in Hallaton, Leics
The Haxey Hood Game in north Lincolnshire
Padstow Obby Oss in Cornwall
(in fact, there are good "folk legends" asociated with several of these traditions!)
Cotswold, Border, Northwest (clog), Molly, and at a push longsword or rapper (though it could be argued that sword dances are a distinct tradition). Not sure if garland should be included as morris, either, but anyway, these are all types of English traditional dance.
(Andy, Mumming isn't dancing, it's a type of folk play, though many morris sides do mumming plays at certain times of the year)
five english folk songs that aren't by Steeleye Span or <spit>Steelers Wheel
The Seeds of Love (the first song collected by Cecil Sharp)
The Grey Cock
Lucy Wan
Polly Vaughan
The Cuckoo
five english folk legends
Not sure exactly what you mean by folk legends, but I'll have a go:
Black Annis, the witch of Leicester
The Black Dog (a tale known from Whitby to Norfolk to Dartmoor)
The legend of Minster Lovell (immortalised in the song The Mistletoe Bough)
The Pendle Witches
The Rutland Panther!
five reasons why I would be considered racist for wanting to bring english stories and songs to the multicultural banquet
I don't think you would. I've been managing a lot of work in schools around clog, rapper and longsword dance, as well as song. The schools are multicultural. There have been no accusations of racism.
Like you, I think that it's important that English traditions are part of the multicultural mix; but I think it's the way that these sentiments are sometimes expressed, rather than the sentiments themselves, which come in for criticism.
'kay, here's another challenge! 5 traditional English customs. I'll start you off:
Pace Egging in Midgely, West Yorks
The Britania Coco-nut Dancers of Bacup, Lancs
The Hare Pie Scramble and Bottle Kicking in Hallaton, Leics
The Haxey Hood Game in north Lincolnshire
Padstow Obby Oss in Cornwall
(in fact, there are good "folk legends" asociated with several of these traditions!)
[quote name='barmyrob' date='Apr 10 2007, 10:32 AM' post='210042']
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[quote][quote=Vijay Prashad]Are cultures discrete and bounded? We’d have to accept homophobia and sexism, class cruelty and racism, all in the service of being respectful to someone’s perverse definition of culture.[/quote][/quote]
Barmy, thats exactly how I felt when I at first was so angry inj Uganda. I just couldnt't get people to understand! i guess im not as elequent as Vijay Prashad.
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[quote][quote=Vijay Prashad]Are cultures discrete and bounded? We’d have to accept homophobia and sexism, class cruelty and racism, all in the service of being respectful to someone’s perverse definition of culture.[/quote][/quote]
Barmy, thats exactly how I felt when I at first was so angry inj Uganda. I just couldnt't get people to understand! i guess im not as elequent as Vijay Prashad.
QUOTE(joaniecrumpet @ Apr 10 2007, 05:16 PM)
'kay, here's another challenge! 5 traditional English customs. I'll start you off:
Pace Egging in Midgely, West Yorks
The Britania Coco-nut Dancers of Bacup, Lancs
The Hare Pie Scramble and Bottle Kicking in Hallaton, Leics
The Haxey Hood Game in north Lincolnshire
Padstow Obby Oss in Cornwall
(in fact, there are good "folk legends" asociated with several of these traditions!)
Lewes Bonfire
Up Helly Ha
QUOTE(joaniecrumpet @ Apr 10 2007, 05:16 PM)
[five english folk legends
Not sure exactly what you mean by folk legends, but I'll have a go:
Black Annis, the witch of Leicester
The Black Dog (a tale known from Whitby to Norfolk to Dartmoor)
The legend of Minster Lovell (immortalised in the song The Mistletoe Bough)
The Pendle Witches
The Rutland Panther!
The Rutland Panther isn't a legend....... it's real!!!
Several people round my old village certainly claimed to have seen it!
The Beast of Bodmin Moore = legend
So if someone is a polyculturalist like barmyrob, what will that person say of someone (who I like as a broadcaster) such as Henry Bonsu who describes him self as fully African and fully British?
He was born in Africa I think, so maybe that's a fair enough self description. But if you have never been to Africa, but see your self as an African, and think that means havving ''an African perspective'' - then I'm not sure how progressive that would be in a place like Britain.
In Billy's Guardian piece I agree with his first couple of lines, but would say that this sense of victimhood is pervasive across our multi-cultural society. Victimhood is attractive.
He was born in Africa I think, so maybe that's a fair enough self description. But if you have never been to Africa, but see your self as an African, and think that means havving ''an African perspective'' - then I'm not sure how progressive that would be in a place like Britain.
In Billy's Guardian piece I agree with his first couple of lines, but would say that this sense of victimhood is pervasive across our multi-cultural society. Victimhood is attractive.
But what's your favourite form of morris dance, damon?
Oh - have I got the wrong end of the stick again?
Morris dancing? It's never been my thing really.
We used to go to Irish dancing when we were kids though?
Morris dancing? It's never been my thing really.
We used to go to Irish dancing when we were kids though?
Are you Irish?
QUOTE(damon @ Apr 11 2007, 02:06 PM)
So if someone is a polyculturalist like barmyrob, what will that person say of someone (who I like as a broadcaster) such as Henry Bonsu who describes him self as fully African and fully British?
I think they would say it proves their point.
Cant stand Morris dancing myself - 'you should try everything in life at least once, with the exception of incest and morris dancing'.
Bollocks, Rob. With the greatest of respect, of course.
I would suggest you haven't seen enough really good morris dancing. Especially sword dancing. Rapper sword is as fast, as athletic, as exciting and as sexy as any traditional dance of any country, anywhere.
Specially when the swords are on fire.
I would suggest you haven't seen enough really good morris dancing. Especially sword dancing. Rapper sword is as fast, as athletic, as exciting and as sexy as any traditional dance of any country, anywhere.
Specially when the swords are on fire.
QUOTE(joaniecrumpet @ Apr 11 2007, 08:58 PM)
Bollocks, Rob. With the greatest of respect, of course.
I would suggest you haven't seen enough really good morris dancing. Especially sword dancing. Rapper sword is as fast, as athletic, as exciting and as sexy as any traditional dance of any country, anywhere.
Specially when the swords are on fire.
QUOTE(joaniecrumpet @ Apr 11 2007, 02:32 PM)
Are you Irish?
I was born there, and my parents are Irish, but I wouldn't call my self Irish.
I'd say I'm a polyculturalist too, (if I understand it right) - and people can call themselves what ever they want. But my point about Henry Bonsu and those people on BBC London radio on a sunday evening that I listen to, is that they seem to be turning away from that idea, and sometimes seem to suggest that they have more in common with people in Africa than they do with a person who lives next door who is not of African origin.
That racist poem that Lee H O posted raises an interesting issue. About community and change.
It's an ugly minded poem, but I'd be amazed if there wasn't a certain amount of resentment laying under the surface, when an area like Savile Town in Dewsbury changes from what it was, to what it is today, in 20 years. That British Pakistani's practice the tradition of cousin marriage means that a community like that in Dewsbury must be always getting larger, and stays Pakistani in culture more than it would if it wasn't continually replenished from the subcontinent.
Not an issue for anyone on this forum I'm sure (apart from all that flying back and forth from the UK to Asia that that community does) - but some people don't see things the same as people on the BB forum.
QUOTE(joaniecrumpet @ Apr 11 2007, 08:58 PM)
Bollocks, Rob. With the greatest of respect, of course.
I would suggest you haven't seen enough really good morris dancing. Especially sword dancing. Rapper sword is as fast, as athletic, as exciting and as sexy as any traditional dance of any country, anywhere.
Specially when the swords are on fire.
Must admit I tend to agree with Rob ...... & I do see some morris dancing. The Rushcart Festival in Uppermill, Greater Manchester has morris dancers from all over the world. I admit I attend because a mate who lives close has 'a bit of a do' & one of the local pubs does a really good pint or 6.
You have to remember that morris dance is folk dance. that means it's communicated by ordinary people to one another. There's no minimum standard to take part; that's part of what keeps it a real folk dance, and not some of the artificially constructed, state-sponsored "folk" dance you get in places like Eastern Europe. It still belongs to the people, so the quality is going to be very variable. For me, that's part of its charm.
On the other hand, when you see a side like Dogrose Morris - athletic, testosterone-charged dance full of leaps, somersaults and midair splits - or a rapper side like Black Swan, who dance staggeringly quickly in tight, perfectly executed formations with their swords...both are absolutely breathtaking.
I brought both into schools last autumn as part of the Demon Barber Road Show (anyone see them at Tolpuddle last year?). There were 11 year old girls SCREAMING over morris dancers, and 11 year old boys queuing up to have a go at it. I kid you not.
On the other hand, when you see a side like Dogrose Morris - athletic, testosterone-charged dance full of leaps, somersaults and midair splits - or a rapper side like Black Swan, who dance staggeringly quickly in tight, perfectly executed formations with their swords...both are absolutely breathtaking.
I brought both into schools last autumn as part of the Demon Barber Road Show (anyone see them at Tolpuddle last year?). There were 11 year old girls SCREAMING over morris dancers, and 11 year old boys queuing up to have a go at it. I kid you not.
QUOTE(joaniecrumpet @ Apr 12 2007, 05:56 PM)
I brought both into schools last autumn as part of the Demon Barber Road Show (anyone see them at Tolpuddle last year?). There were 11 year old girls SCREAMING over morris dancers, and 11 year old boys queuing up to have a go at it. I kid you not.
people in the east midlands have always worried me.
QUOTE(nevski @ Apr 13 2007, 09:04 AM)
QUOTE(joaniecrumpet @ Apr 12 2007, 05:56 PM)
I brought both into schools last autumn as part of the Demon Barber Road Show (anyone see them at Tolpuddle last year?). There were 11 year old girls SCREAMING over morris dancers, and 11 year old boys queuing up to have a go at it. I kid you not.
people in the east midlands have always worried me.
Nev, I always thought that loads of people worried you ?
theres loads of people in the east midlands, isn't there?
yeah - and this afternoon a sizeable proportion of the region's schoolchildren were ceilidh dancing!
I'm conducting a hearts and minds campaign. You parents can keep denegrating your own culture - it's okay. Your kids will have to teach you all about it!
I'm conducting a hearts and minds campaign. You parents can keep denegrating your own culture - it's okay. Your kids will have to teach you all about it!
i 
morris dancing. Billy told alberr i could take something for it
morris dancing. Billy told alberr i could take something for it
Yes...I need to have a word with him at Tolpuddle about his anti-morris comments, hopefully with Daisy standing there with her black hair, wearing her Emo Morris t-shirt: Jack Skellington wearing bells and waving hankies, with "Shake your thing with The Pumpkin King" written on the back.
Morris dancing is SO cool...
Morris dancing is SO cool...
QUOTE(nevski @ Apr 19 2007, 10:03 PM)
theres loads of people in the east midlands, isn't there?
All right, I thought people from many different places worried you. Are you really Terry Collier is disguise?
For non UK (& young UK) residents Terry Collier was a character in a 70's comedy series 'Whatever Happened to the Likely Lads' set in the North East of England. His mate, Bob, always got at Terry for being xenophobic.
In the sketch, over a pint in the pub, Terry starts off by giving his (bad) one line opinions of foriegners, then slags off people from other parts of England, he follows this up by giving his his distrust of people from other bits of his town/city & finally says he's not too sure about the people from most houses on his street. Not PC but very funny.
i think you have me mixed up with someone else Redstar....
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