It is alledged by sources I cannot name that there is a disproportionate number of BNP and White Nationalist Party supporters among the Security Staff at a certain Shopping Centre in Leeds City Centre. Perhaps it is the black shirt uniform, which attracts them to the job.

Also, it is widely alledged by many Leeds Big Issue Vendors, homeless and ex homeless people, that some of the Security Guards in that particular Shopping Centre engage in the practice of beating up homeless people and other vulnerable people deemed by the Security Guards to be "filthy smackheads".

It is claimed that they forcibly take people down into the basement of that Shopping Centre and subject them to agonising beatings.

It is also widely alledged by many of the homeless, that if the victims of these beatings contact the Police, it is the victims who are arrested, rather than the evil thugs who brutalised them.

One needs only speak to any number of Big Issue vendors, homeless and ex homeless people and one will hear of the same thing over and over again.

Surely, dozens of homeless people cannot all be making up the same stories.

Evil Brutes who take pleasure in bullying people weaker then themselves are very much like paedophiles in many ways.

Just as paedophiles galvanise to jobs in Childrens's homes and Schools, Bullies, who take pleasure in beating up vulnerable groups, such as the Homeless are attracted to jobs where they get the chance to vent their lusts on people who cannot fight back or speak out for themselves.

Like the victims of paedophilia, the victims of these thugs stand little chance of receiving Legal Justice. They almost certainly would not be believed by the Polce or Courts.

So what's the BNP connection?

Erm...



That, possibly?

"Erm .. that possibly".

Well it's certainly possible. Not so sure about 'possibly' though.

"What's the BNP connection?"

What's the connection between smoke and fire?

So, let me try to get a grip of this...
Did one of the security staff mention the BNP whilst beating a vulnerable person, or were they wearing some sort of badge, or did they say a few right-wing things whilst dishing it out?
I'm sure you could put more meat on the bone without compromising you source's safety.

[quote=Ruckes,Feb 9 2006, 09:28 PM]
So, let me try to get a grip of this...
Here we are not dealing with a handful of supporters of perfectly legal if not particularly pleasent political parties, who accidentally take jobs in the same place, but quite probably something more serious and sinister.

We are probably looking at something more clandestine, which engages in activities far more nafarious than any individual political party. Clandestine action groups, which run on a cellular structure, such as the people we are looking at are far more dangerous than visible political parties.

According to various sources who, as part of their job, have to encounter these people on a regular basis, there has, over 18 months been a sinister change in the make up of the Security staff at the said shopping centre.

Over that period, decent members of the Security Staff have gradually left and been replaced by a much less pleasent groups.

It is said that the group, which has taken over has done so gradually and by stealth, in a way rather similar to that in which the Talliban took power in Afghanistan.

These people are in a position to form a powerful cell, very useful to any clandestine action group, such as the League of Saint George or Collumn 88 etc.

I do not know if the physical attacks are for personal pleasure, for political reasons or part of some sort of strategic training practice. Under the old Security Staff, such attacks never took place. It is only to an ever increasing degree over the last 18 months since the tallibanistic cartel progressively manouvered themselves into control.

The orthodox Left make me laugh. Surely, they should be putting more effort into exposing the activities of these people rather than whether Nick Griffin should go to prison for comments, which he allegedly made.

These people are far more sinister and dangerous than Nick Griffin.

Any investigative journalist with an open mind could expose a truly terrible can of worms in this shopping centre.

OK.

If, as alleged, homeless and vulnerable people are being sytematically abused and assaulted, then, in my opinion, that is sufficient scandal in itself.
but the way this story is being presented,with comparisons to paedophilia, the Taliban and some rather tenuous links to a far right group all serves to needlessly sensationalise a legitimate grievance, and, in my opinion, detracts from the real story .

To be honest, though I can understand and share the disgust of the originator of the thread, I don't think the approach taken is the right one.