someone was v surprised when i said i do no like being referred to as a girl or a lady.
a girl wouold make me under sixteen. - no thankyou.
a lady would make me a "well mannered woman". I am a woman regardless of my social etiquette.
why is the word woman disliked so much and why does it have so many negative connotations?

That is hilarious, PS.

I have noticed before that some men cannot say the word woman. Since I am no lady (with no aspirations or time to be so) I really hate that one. Since I haven't been a girl in a - while - unless I'm with my oldest friends (known as the girls) cross that one off too. I am a woman, I am. It's great. Say it with me!

i am no lady!



good topic and i'll come back to it.

meanwhile ... i am referring to the female who is driving me mad at work as 'the girlie'.

thus avoiding the possibility of 'the woman' being misinterpreted and avoiding (at all costs) the use of the word 'lady'.

yep - definitely woman - I can't stand lady - with all it's baggage suggesting that women should be polite, demure, defer to men agh - girl can sometimes be OK - from mates I don't mind "what do the girls want [to drink]" and girls night out jsut sounds more fun than womans night out....
but if a stranger refered to me as a girl - I'd see it as patronising and offensive - and I'd probably correct them....

its me, btp and sally a youve all made me v happy
i find the main offenders tend to be women and when i question them i get called a "bloddy feminist lesbian" as if thats ment to be some kind of insult.

the youngish woman i refer to as the girlie (because i refuse to call her the manager in case she tries to manage me) calls everybody 'darling' or 'my sweet' ... customers and colleagues alike!

i can't stand it!

i told her (in front of a few customers ) that only people i was intimately aquainted with could call me sweet and i didn't wish to be intimately aquainted with her thank you (not because she is female, i just can't stand the bitch )

[quote=Beryl the Peril,Oct 2 2005, 04:12 PM]
[QUOTE](because i refuse to call her the manager in case she tries to manage me[/QUOTE]

btp you kill me

At least she doesn't call you mumsy... or little mum...
GRRRRRR!

my manager thinks my name is "shuddup and go away" or "yeah, what do you want now shay!"
shes cool.

.Regarding the use of the word 'woman'.I have no problem using that phrase.I would never call women over about 35 years old, 'girls'.I would probably call them 'ladies'.

My dad calls everyone 'luv'.I suppose you can get away with that as his age.

I don't like the phrases 'bird' or 'missus' either.


edited because my first sentence may have been offensive to P.Shay

yeah but how would you know their age? did u not know tis not noice to ask a "lady" their age and with plastic surgery and skin creams and everything tis so hard to tell these days. lol


people here -especially women call each other bird. i hate it so i call everyone chick



offensive to p.shay? what did u think i would find the work pink pink pink offensive? believe me ive been called a lot worse and i like pink. tis pretty.

Mr. L. calls me his "chickie", which I like

thats v noice
no one calls me anything like that

i knew as soon as i saw this topic the moment would come for me to say

fuck off, klf



oh no he can't. he's not my bloddy love and i'd tell him so!

Round my way every one calls each other luv, I ressisted for years but now I cant help it, sorry luv...

Any way just call me crazy mad psycho bitch from hell what drives like a bat out of hell, or luv if thats easier. Whatever, just not cunt, but thats another thread all together............

I think it depend where you come from - where I grew up grotty old blokes called each other love...

....then I moved to leicester and they all called each other m'duck...


now I work in london - fuck off appears to be the endearment of choice

ok then fuck off minger

it's so nice when you go out of your way to make me feel loved

Hey see you is special I wouldnt say that to any one else but you.
Cos your special....

BtP, I'm not a betting WOMAN, but if I were, I'd bet that sniveling little shithead wouldn't call US ladies.

Or he would just before the lights went out.

Its a turm of casual frendliness.It doesn't mean the person loves you,or considers you his 'luv'.Just as when we say 'mate'. Got the time ,mate It doesn't mean you actually concider them a real mate or friend.

Beryl, take this senario... You are entering a building,a pensioner walks in just behind you.You breifly hold the door open for him to enter.He cheerfully says '[/I]Thanks luv'[I] and smiles at you.

Would you really pull him up and tell him not to call you that? If so, i think that would be rude on your behalf.

Barb,for a pacifist, you can be quite aggressive.

Ha.


BOO!

i probably wouldn't kick an oap in the bollocks for calling me luv ... unless he was carrying a copy of the sun.

i don't like passing strangers calling me love but of course i realise that there are generic salutations and a lot depends on context.

For instance a taxi driver who was late and made me miss my train when i'd got up at 4 in the morning did not get away with saying 'sorry love'.

oh no!


on the other hand, if he had been a geordie and said 'sorry pet' i might have had to drag him indoors and give him a snog. I love that accent. But on the other hand i might have said i am not a fuckin' dog

i'm a hard woman.

No you're not love, you're lovely soft and squishy

girlie called me by my name this morning

'spose i'll have to be nice to her for now

Don't back down now, babycakes.

Well I'm a lady, allegedly...

I can be a lady when it suits....

i like a lady in a suit

oh btp you changing sides?

i am ambivilent

When I first started out as a teacher, far too many years ago, I had ironed the word "girl" out of my vocabulary so meticulously that I found myself once referring to the 7-year-old girls in my class as "women"... True story, and how they rightfully laughed, though at least I got to explain to them why it had happened.

My take on this is that frankly I've been worn down over the years by friends, male and female (including people here, if I may say so), whom I am in tune with politically and whom I respect, using "girl" when they mean "woman".

I used to take people up on it, but painted myself into a corner of over-PC allegations. And me a male too, not really feeling able to challenge when "girl" was used by a woman I know, so I've virtually given up swimming against this particular tide.

Just my two penn'orth.

I am surprised that you can still type that word at this time of night, how many ciders have you had madam.

i have just had three brandies and two mini crunchies and i'm off to bed, so you can call me what you like, so long as you talk about me when i'm gone

just bringing this to the top.. before lib starts another new thread.

Ow many threads do you want on this topic then?

I spoke to my mate on the phone about an hour ago and he is black and from Birmingham. I have banned him from coming here as he wanted to say what he calls his wife. He tried to tell me it was just a term of endearment. I didn't agree.

It seems to be very common for some women here in Denmark to refer to themselves as "piger" (girls) as in "We girls" etc. As a bloke I can't really pull them up on it but it grates on me like hell.

just this one which has been going since Oct 2 2005, 04:06 PM, ta




You can call someone you love and are close to what you (and they) like. just look at the valentine pages in the grauniad

that has nothing to do with referring to a roomful of women as ladies.

alberr calls me sweetie, when he is in a cheerful mood. My previous husband called me, and pretty well every other female in the world, darling, which was a tad annoying . We refer to tgj's girlfriends as flossie but that's a whole other story

women in a group do call themselves girls... it's a girlie thing see sallyA's post back a bit

and i use too many emoticons!

I don't know what the fuss is all about.

Girl, Woman, Lady... I find there is one term that unites all females...

Poppet.

I just call females poppet. Seems to unite them.

are you sure they aren't just ganging up on you but i think you already knew that

someone in my life has called me poppet and now i am going to spend all day trying to remember who

My mum used to call me poppet... when I was FIVE.

My mother still calls me "Pumpkin".

I wouldn't use fake tan, it'll just compound the problem.

As long as no one tries to carve me come October 31, I think I'll be alright...

not that i want to bragg or anything but i will just point out that Billy calls me by my name

actually, he calls most of the people on here who have reached fuckin' saddo status by their name

Dont you think its relevant to the situation? Sometimes you say ladies, girls or women.

or strumpets

but seriously kirk ... if you read right through you will see what we are on about.

now why do i abbreviate names on here. I so don't approve of that and yet i do it to my own children too.

You know at a big boxing match, when the announcer is in the ring at the beginning?
What he (or she) says?

What would be better than what they say?
(The oppening words, to get peoples attention).