Tony Blair has always voted for late-term abortions, and
Tony Blair supports partial-birth abortion.

Partial-birth abortion is a horrifying procedure wherein an abortionist incompletely delivers a baby, leaving its head within the mother. He then penetrates the base of a late-term baby's skull so that he can suction out its brain (thereby collapsing its little head) prior to full delivery. Evidence confirms that these unborn children experience profound pain during these procedures.

a surgical nurse who observed first-hand this gruesome procedure at abortion clinic, recounted the immense revulsion she experienced while participating in a partial-birth abortion:
"The baby's little fingers were clasping and unclasping and his feet were kicking. Then, the doctor stuck the scissors through the back of his head and the baby's arms jerked out in a flinch, in a startled reaction -- like a baby does when he thinks that he might fall."

What evidence do you have for making such an accusation? The only time I heard the bloke comment on abortion he made it clear that he wasn't keen on any form of abortion.

But maybe he's changed his mind ...

his voting record in parliament

According to Christian definitions, this is how Tony voted on 'moral' issues, from the Christian Institute website at Tony in the arena ...

Voted against "mainly Christian" Religious Education throughout England and Wales in 1988
Abstained or was absent on the votes for Section 28
Voted against banning experiments on human embryos
Voted for reducing the abortion limit to 24 weeks
Abstained or was absent on the vote for making doctors specify the handicap when allowing abortion up to birth
Abstained or was absent on the vote for a public register of pro-life doctors
Abstained or was absent on the votes for an incitement to religious hatred offence in 2001
Voted for 'no-fault' divorce
Abstained or was absent on the votes for an 18 month or for a 2 year waiting period prior to divorce
Abstained or was absent on the vote for removing the ban on homosexuals joining the armed forces
Voted for reducing the homosexual age of consent to 16
Abstained or was absent on the vote for allowing greater freedom for religious broadcasting
Voted for research using human cloning
Abstained or was absent on the votes for preventing euthanasia
Abstained or was absent on the votes for the Second and Third Readings of the Civil Partnership Bill
Abstained or was absent on the vote for extending the Civil Partnership Bill to cover siblings
Abstained or was absent on the votes for restricting the parental right to smack
Voted for allowing unmarried and homosexual couples to adopt children
Abstained or was absent on the votes for the Second and Third Readings of the Gambling Bill
Abstained or was absent on the votes for the Second and Third Readings of the Gender Recognition Bill
Abstained or was absent on the vote for including protection for churches and religious organisations in the Gender Recognition Bill
Abstained or was absent on the vote for reclassifying cannabis
Abstained or was absent on the vote for abolishing the blasphemy laws

Were there any other votes on abortion issues?

that's quite a list of abstentions, Alberr. wouldn't mind seeing a list of what he did vote for, otherwise a bloke could get to thinking that Tony NiceButDim doesn't do a lot for his pay...

Is "mary ." related to "tom ."?

(Difficult sentence to punctuate, that...).

dunno, but I'm guessing she's between "Marx ." & "Marzipan ."

Closer to marzipan from the look of things.

as in a tendency to make one feel sick if you take too much at one time?

That is such an evil and inaccurate description of a medical procedure. Shame on you "Mary".

Tut tut all of you ! Mary is a new member and just because she has started a whole new thread in a highly devisive area and hasn't posted anywhere else....doesn't mean that you can say anything nasty. And nobody say the T word. Please line up to give mary Dot a big hug.

Are you trying to "change your ways" Braggtopia?!

Yeah, I understand about him being absent on occasion 'cos he's a Minister and they got other things to do ... but all those abstentions ... and on moral' issues too ...

P'raps he's not very moral ...

No, wait a minute, I distincly remember him preaching to us on loads of occasions that he is a very moral man ...

P'raps he was lying ...

How could he do that?

He's the honourable Tony Blair, the Prime Minister.

He cannot tell a lie.

It's true.

It is!

Is it me, or have a number of posts disappeared from here? And from a few other threads, too...has Toby been doing some discreet pruning, and if so does anyone know why the responses to this bollocks are being edited when the completely offensive and wacko allegations themselves are being left alone?

Posts from the 1st May until yesterday (I think) all disappeared. Nothing sinister from the Tobmeister.

edited for putting I thin instead of I think. I not thin.

That procedure is used only when the life of the mother is in danger. The religious right, tries to confuse the issue, by implying that partial birth abortions are used for contraception. They are not, and this is a terrible lie.

James, don't worry about responding to the troll. They are just parroting what they are told. (also, you're wrong, but we can talk in private)

Thanks.

Barbara, in my public health studies, that is what was taught. Its a medical procedure, If I am wrong, pleaese correct me. And how come Charles Kennedy gets no responce. This is the most incredible thing to happen. A third party that can win elections and be a forece that Tony Blair cannot ignore. What gives with you folks.

James, these people live in England and have a much more in-depth view of Charles Kennedy than we do, no matter how many times we read the guardian on-line. I assume everybody here have many reasons to be lukewarm about him.

Yes it is a medical procedure but it's not always practiced to save the life of the mother. There are many reasons to have a late term abortion, all of them the business of the woman having the procedure, none of them ours.

A very good friend of mine was pregnant, and in the sixth month of her pregnancy, the fetus "died". There was no question that the fetus was dead, no reason to think there was foul play involved and no way of finding out until the fetus was out of her body. But because of the hysteria involved in this process, she could not find a doctor to remove the fetus and was forced to deliver the corpse, at 7 1/2 months, in a conventional delivery room in the obstetrics ward of a huge learning facility hospital.

This endangered her health and broke. Her. Heart. Stupid EVIL STUPID motherfuckers who get in the way of sound medical practice.

That is such a sad story, Barb. Shit.

Oh my God, Barb.

That needs to go in the "Tell Us Your Story" section on prochoiceamerica.org (formerly NARAL).

Heart-wrenching.

Oh. It was in one of the posts that disappeared, but a judge finally ruled for the girl's right to have an abortion, and Gov. Jeb Bush said they would not pursue an appeal of that decision.

Barb, that's bloody awful.

A similar thing happened with my sister in law a while back, she was having a rare old time, so it was an IVF pregnancy - needless to say we were all gutted, but she had to carry the 'body' until they could induce it, not very nice at all. Luckily her first child, also IVF, was (and stil is) perfect,